Passenger side turn signal light not working

[Alan Taylor]

Hi to all,
I have a 09 Essence. I noticed that the passenger side signal light in front of the rear wheel is working on parking lights, but does not blink when signaling for a right turn. I changed the bulb, but to no avail. Anybody know where to start troubleshooting this?? The Driver side one is working on parking light and left turn signal light.
Any help would be appreciated.
Alan Taylor

[tncruiser]

being an 09 i would start with the dealer sounds like a chassis manufactuers issue
brianj/tncruiser

[powerboatr]

Alan, did you by chance check the wires with a vom to make sure your getting power to the bulb?

did your fixture work previously or did you discover it not working by happenstance
you know i have never checked my signals for blinking at the fender , i assumed they were just lights
so much for my pre-trip inspection

[Alan Taylor]

Hi Robert,
The light has power because the parking light comes on. (Same light fixture). The Driver side parking light works and the signal light works on that side. (same fixture). I do not know for sure that the passenger side ever blinked when signaling a right hand turn. I was checking the lights out in preparation for a trip, and this is when I discovered it wasn't working.
Any troubleshooting help would be appreciated.
Alan

[John H...]

Alan, If your front and rear turn signals are working and the side marker isn't, but have power for parking lights and also have tried a new bulb, I would first check to see if you have power to the turn signal part, just to eliminate 2 bad bulbs. After that you should start back tracking the wireing from the light fixture as far back as you can follow it. If you can't do that then I would go back to the dealer as Brian suggested. Good luck and let us know what you find. John H...

[powerboatr]

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Originally Posted by Alan Taylor Hi Robert, The light has power because the parking light comes on. (Same light fixture). The Driver side parking light works and the signal light works on that side. (same fixture). I do not know for sure that the passenger side ever blinked when signaling a right hand turn. I was checking the lights out in preparation for a trip, and this is when I discovered it wasn't working. Any troubleshooting help would be appreciated. Alan

alan
i went and checked mine last night, WOW they blink
and the wire for it runs across the backwall of the water tank area to a harness on the frame, i wont tell you just how freaking hard it is to get to, just trust me, but it is labeled.
i would check the socket real good for corrosion and then give the dealer a ring, we go in soon i hope for a new exit door inside panel it cracked around all the screws and its a two week back order item

[Alan Taylor]

Hi Robert,
thanks for the information. I to, have tried to trace the wire, and its not easy. I don't understand what to look for, as the parking light does work, so it is getting power. What I don't understand is where to look for the blinker, or what ever comes on when the turn signal is activated. I would think it is somewhere else that I need to look at to determine this. Any suggestions??
Alan

[John H...]

Alan, You know the parking light is getting power, but do you know for sure the blinker side is? Is there only one wire coming in or two? I would say to try and find the flasher, but if the front and rear are flashing then it is probably OK, so problem has to be in wires to your side marker or the socket itself. Does the bulb have 2 contacts on the base? If so, you must have power to both. One for parking light and the other for blinker. Are there 2 filiments in bulb? John H...

[Alan Taylor]

Hi John,
I can only see one filiment, its a 194 bulb. I am still puzzeled by it. I can hear a blinking sound from the driver side rear most bottom compartment door. Its coming from the Arens control box in the compartment there, but did not take the cover off of the control box to investigate further. Does anyone know if this is the flasher for all turn signals, with the wires terminating at this point, or is that somewhere else. It seems as though the faulty turn signal would have to go to that controller, also???? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

Alan

[John H...]

Alan, if there is only one filiment, then the same filiment doubles as the blinker when the flasher sends the signal. It is strange that the other ones blink and this one doesn't. Seems as though it would' more so be a wireing problem, rather than a seperate flasher. However, I am not familiar with your particular model or know how that wireing is set up. Did you look in your owners manual to see if there is a wireing diagram? Again, you might want to consider going to the dealer, especially if it ends up being a big job to fix. John H...

[Alan Taylor]

Hi John,
thanks for your reply. I to, think its a wiring problem, as I am sure that the one flasher serves all the turning signals. The only problem is, I have not, as yet, been able to isolate the wire from the light. Robert had said he had a difficult time to trace his wire behind the water tanks. That's where mine seem to be going into a mass of wires all cabled tightly together. Hoping for more recommendations,
Alan

[John H...]

OK Alan, good luck and let us know how you make out. Seems as though you are a little reluctant to go to your dealer. Is it far away or inconvenient? Could be a simple fix for them. I don't know about you, but just a small thing like that, not working in such a large complex machine bugs the s--- out of me until it's fixed. John H...

[Alan Taylor]

John,
the dealer is 100 miles away, and I have not been pleased with their warranty service. The last time I took it there it took them almost 2 months to try to fix 3 small simple things, only 1 was repaired. (The kitchen sink faucet was leaking. They put a new one in and stained the countertop when they did that). I couldn't believe they would put in a new one, instead of thightening the old one. They simply gave us a big run around. I usually repair and maintain my own rv, to learn about it and not depend on them at $100 per hour to try to do the work. You are right on the "bugging" part, as that is how I feel when I can't seem to remedy the problem.
Maybe someone will come up with a suggestion that will work and allow me to repair what must be a simple but illusive problem.
Thanks for you suggestions,
Alan

[max49]

I had/ have this same problem. It's intermittent but even tho this post was very helpful as to how it works, I have'nt really entirely fixed my problem, but since the bulb only have 1 filament , and they are both grounded, this is perhaps the only explanation that makes sense.

Posted by 'Auto'
"The side marker uses no true ground. One of the wires goes to the front park (dim) filament + side and the other goes to the front turn (bright) filament + side. When only the parks are on the marker gets its ground through the front bulbs turn element. When the turn sig lights the marker has no ground path only two powers so the light alternates off. With the parks off only turn on the marker gets ground through the front bulbs park element. Any problem with this side marker other than a burnt bulb will almost always be found in the front turn/park bulb or socket on the like side. It is somewhat like a series circuit but with a twist. I am sure the indicator problem is in the left frount turn bulb, socket or the ground of. Make a visual of all of the left side lights function."

Heres my post on the same problem.
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