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Old 11-28-2018, 08:17 PM   #6175
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one more thing...

We decided to the the rear tires replaced too, as they are on the verge of aging out (they are only 5 year old -- I'll never buy tires again without knowing the stamped date!). We are cutting a bit close as we leave Friday, but it's a quick job once the tires actually arrive in the shop.

I just noticed the end of Scarab's comments about the alternator... I don't know how I missed those earlier. *shrug* IDK -- maybe that's something I could have done.... I'm gaining more confidence to do things on the Outlaw.

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Old 11-29-2018, 06:11 PM   #6176
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The first (that I could find) new for 2019 Outlaw 38MB (loftless - MB for massive bedrooms?) has made it to a dealership:
https://www.northtrailrv.com/invento...cknumber/12040
There's some good photos and shows well, the high ceiling in the mid-ship bedroom and the massive super-slide that reaches from the driver's seat to the garage.

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Opinions?

I'm first: What Tha...!? I submit there's obviously room for a loft in the garage, forward of the queen drop-down.
A queen bed is 60" wide, so with the 10'2" garage, there was room for a whole other queen in a loft
Delete the silly patio door in the mid-ship bedroom for a regular single pocket door at garage floor level and delete the odd cubby that is too high to reach in the top front wall of the garage.
This is the same error as in the now discontinued BG (Big 13'6" Garage)

Real Outlaws have lofts

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Old 11-29-2018, 10:46 PM   #6177
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Pick-up

Thought you all might appreciate what I saw when I picked up the coach today (with new tires and wiper blades!).

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We decided to the the rear tires replaced too, as they are on the verge of aging out (they are only 5 year old -- I'll never buy tires again without knowing the stamped date!). We are cutting a bit close as we leave Friday, but it's a quick job once the tires actually arrive in the shop.

I just noticed the end of Scarab's comments about the alternator... I don't know how I missed those earlier. *shrug* IDK -- maybe that's something I could have done.... I'm gaining more confidence to do things on the Outlaw.

Cheers
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Old 11-30-2018, 12:07 AM   #6178
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TMC finally saw the wisdom of a MurphyBed. And look at that slide?
The side ramp is different (no mention of a deck use), and feeds a 8' wide x 6' long garage...making the interior space very large. That's plenty room for two large motor or a quad.
It's only 30'3" (shorter than the 29J) but has a higher price point.

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With each new Outlaw C floorplan, I become increasingly grateful for my 29H. It’s nice to know I have the right rig for my needs. The drop down garage bed of the J elicits a little envy, but then I wouldn’t/couldn’t deal with the missing cabinet storage back there. I’m intrigued by the Murphy bed, but I think the smaller living quarters of the C needs a second couch like it needs a hole in the roof. What’s that step-up mid coach? Zero counter space except for that flip up, and closet and drawer space looks sparse. A side ramp makes street loading of bike or gear much harder (or impossible on busy street). I see why though- because if you are going to shorten the garage length by 3’ then bikes won’t easily fit lengthwise (mine barely fits in 9’ now with the wheel chock in front and deck railings behind). Speaking of, no deck??!!? I know everyone’s needs are unique, but they literally took everything I love about my Outlaw and messed it up. Lol. Good thing I’m not in the market. Ha ha.
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:39 AM   #6179
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Yeah Mike, looks like your satellite television is receiving some rather direct programming!
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Old 11-30-2018, 10:55 AM   #6180
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I am with you on this and having a bigger salon/living space makes more sense to me than having a bedroom midship.
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Old 12-24-2018, 08:53 PM   #6181
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Old 01-10-2019, 09:19 AM   #6182
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Battery charging

So my Outlaw is always plugged in while sitting here at home, never had an issue. Yesterday I walked into the pole barn and the cooking battery smell almost knocked me over.

Question is, does the on board inverter charge the batteries? Im surprised they didnt blow up and catch the place on fire. Anyone have experience with this issue?


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Old 01-10-2019, 11:01 AM   #6183
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The inverter (unless changed) is not a combo "Converter/charger."

The converter, in the electrical bin, takes the shore power or generator power - converts it to 12VDC and charges the batteries.

The OEM converter is NOT a float charger, so it probably/finally cooked your battery water level down to expose the plates. The batteries are possibly lost.

The best way to long term store is to turn off power in the coach and feed shore power to a true float charger like a battery minder connected at the batteries.

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. . . The best way to long term store is to turn off power in the coach and feed shore power to a true float charger like a battery minder connected at the batteries.

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Hi Steve. But what if I also want to keep my refrigerator running on electricity?
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Hi Steve. But what if I also want to keep my refrigerator running on electricity?
Hmmm...OEM 2/way Fridge, right? (110VAC w/ 12VDC for the thermostat -or- LP w/ 12VDC for Piezoelectric Pilot Lighter and thermostat)

So - Feed shore power to the RV as usual (this powers the breaker panel and converter).
BUT - Remove the negative terminal on the house batteries to isolate the bank, then connect the float charger directly to the batteries.

RV will only use shore power. Any required 12 VDC is coming from the from the converter....but cannot cook the batteries.

Or...you can switch to a residential fridge

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There is a breaker for the 110v to the converter that you can turn off and then just hook a trickle charger to the battery
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So my Outlaw is always plugged in while sitting here at home, never had an issue. Yesterday I walked into the pole barn and the cooking battery smell almost knocked me over.

Question is, does the on board inverter charge the batteries? Im surprised they didnt blow up and catch the place on fire. Anyone have experience with this issue?


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I also keep our Outlaw in our pole barn and leave it plugged in to shore power. I leave the battery disconnect switch by the door "salesman switch" in the disconnect position so the batteries are not constantly charging & once or twice a month I will put it in the connect position for 8-12 hours to keep the batteries fully charged. The voltage typically drops to 12.3 - 12.4 volts after sitting idle for a month and after charging the resting voltage is 12.6 - 12.7 volts. I should note that I keep the chassis (starting) battery on a small battery tender 24/7 because I did have issues with it losing charge.

I have done this for several years on our 07 Outlaw and never had any battery issues. Using this method the coach has continuous 120 VAC and 12 VDC power available to all systems.

Our coach had the original battery bank upgraded to (4) 6 volt batteries just after it was purchased new. I replaced those batteries 3 years ago so I feel pretty good about getting 8-9 years out of the originals. The new batteries I installed are AGM batteries and I love them. I did a thorough cleaning & repaint of the battery bank area and 3 years later I have zero corrosion anywhere on the battery terminals or battery bank area and never have to worry about water levels or servicing batteries.
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Our 08 Outlaw had the converter/charger with the 3 stage charger in it that fast charges, and has the maintenence charge.. We always had it plugged in and keeps the batteries charged all the time with out overcharging..
We have 4 6volt golf batteries in it. 2 years old now and going strong..

I think it was the original converter..

I did have to replace it last fall when it quit charging the batteries and the manufacturer no longer did repairs on them, So we ordered a new one.

The same replacement model has 2 new features over the old one, it has a remote control and it has a desulfation mode..

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