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Old 06-06-2017, 05:50 PM   #1
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I was lucky to have one of thor's electrical genius's wire my coach

I had a couple of 120v outlets that didn't work in the slide so I finally went looking for the problem this is what i found under dinette in elec box



I pulled on the black wire and it came out


I then started to remove the tape and found this


final tally 3 wires not hooked up why it never shorted out and killed the the breaker i guess i was lucky
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It was in a box . What more do you want?

I don't believe that 2 wires through one grommet is up to code either.
At least not in a S&Bs.
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Look on the bright side, at least he/she wasn't color blind ��
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Look on the bright side, at least he/she wasn't color blind ��
And the OP didn't pay a RV Service Center $100 an hour labor rate and four weeks of the coach sitting in their yard.
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Power Drop

I have a new Thor Aria 3601. There is one circuit in the coach that only has the electric water heater and the electric fireplace on a 15 amp breaker. Each has a potential power draw of 11.7 amp.
The fireplace will run for awhile and when the electric water heater kicks in the fireplace shuts off. It does not trip the 15 amp breaker. The fireplace will not restart for some amount on time and then will restart.
It seems that each is wired directly back to the circuit box and I cannot find an intermediate junction box to look for a loose wire connection.
I think what is happening is that the breaker is undersized and when the Water Heater draws power there is a low power sensor on the fireplace that shuts it down.
Any ideas from you experience?
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Are there even building codes for RV's?

I suppose if there were there would also be inspections and the prices would be higher.
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Are there even building codes for RV's?

I suppose if there were there would also be inspections and the prices would be higher.
In our state, there needs to be a sticker from this guys on it or it can't be sold.

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I suppose if there were there would also be inspections and the prices would be higher.
RVIA is supposed to set the "codes" for construction for the RV industry, but some manufacturers choose not to subscribe or the workers just don't care!
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I have a new Thor Aria 3601. There is one circuit in the coach that only has the electric water heater and the electric fireplace on a 15 amp breaker. Each has a potential power draw of 11.7 amp.
The fireplace will run for awhile and when the electric water heater kicks in the fireplace shuts off. It does not trip the 15 amp breaker. The fireplace will not restart for some amount on time and then will restart.
It seems that each is wired directly back to the circuit box and I cannot find an intermediate junction box to look for a loose wire connection.
I think what is happening is that the breaker is undersized and when the Water Heater draws power there is a low power sensor on the fireplace that shuts it down.
Any ideas from you experience?
Dave,

I think what is happening is that the Energy Management System will automatically shed (turn off) an item on the circuit if there is too much of a draw. I believe that Thor has determined the hierarchy for this. Once the draw from the hot water heater stops this allows the fireplace to start back up. At least this is what happens on our `14. I would guess that the Firefly in yours works the same way.
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Mine works the same. Dryer and vacuum are also on the same circuit. Have ask if the system can be changed where the hot water heater and fireplace can be separated. Was told it can be done but Thor service center are not authorized to do the worked.
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Mine works the same. Dryer and vacuum are also on the same circuit. Have ask if the system can be changed where the hot water heater and fireplace can be separated. Was told it can be done but Thor service center are not authorized to do the worked.
That is going to be part of my issue. On mine, the only things I can find running on AC are the fridge (residential) and TVs. I want to have one of the outlets near the booth and the one under the bed running from the inverter also. The dinette is so Kelly can work from the coach while we are running down the road and the one under the bed will be for my CPAP. I have already deduced that the two generic batteries for the coach are not up to the task to even run the fridge and am already formulating a replacement framework for housing and servicing four 6 volt batteries with much more ease. I have considered either making all outlets hot in boondocking/traveling mode or adding two outlets that will be fed same as the fridge. Regardless, the battery box mods won't be done before really late winter and any wiring mods not done (other than an extension cord from fridge plug for Kelly) until after the warranty expires. I know it doesn't hurt, but I just don't want to have to run the generator so much while wanderin around.
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