Navistar v the World battle continues

[moisheh]

I think we have the EPA to blame for this whole mess. There has to be a reason why Cummins, Volvo, etc. chose to stick with Urea. Why did the Europeans go the same route? All of our questions will be answered in about 3 years. By then maybe there will be a third method to meet the EPA standards. For now I wold be afraid of the EGR setup that Navistar is using. Yes it has been tested for millions of miles but the proof is in the pudding. The UREA method is cumbersome but it is proven. And to think I was upset that my 08 Dynasty had a DPF!!! Trucker forums are where you would get the best information about problems with any of the systems. Anyone know of a good forum?? I do read all the trade magazines but they tend to be biased.

[DriVer]

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Originally Posted by moisheh The UREA method is cumbersome but it is proven.

To my understanding it is proven under European standards which are not as high as US DEP standards. Navistar has implemented both technologies in that market and has bought SCR equipped engines for some Class 8 applications. According to independent press road tests A-EGR MaxxForce 13 engines pull the ProStar and LoneStar along quite nicely using A-EGR equipped engines. According to Randall & Reilly January 2009 Press;

"Navistar Inc. announced Monday, Jan. 21, that it has signed an agreement to acquire an interest in Danish technology company Amminex; terms were not made public. The Amminex technology is a metal ammine-based NOx reductant delivery system, and is a tool that Navistar engineers will use to explore exhaust gas NOx reduction for specific applications." MORE ....

Anyone know of a good forum?? I do read all the trade magazines but they tend to be biased.[/QUOTE]I've been getting a lot of info from eTrucker.com.

Later this year as you stated previously Navistar will release a ~"MaxxForce 15"~ based on the CAT C15 that will be a all EGR solution motor. HERE .... Source Truckinginfo.com This engine size according to press is creating a lot of angst for Cummins who is having challenges with that product going forward.

One thing that I have found; there are many trucking websites out there .... and not being in the business, it's difficult for me to gage bias.

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