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Old 04-13-2010, 12:54 PM   #1
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composite oil pan ISL 400

Does anyone know why cummins used a plastic oil pan in 07 on the ISL ?
I'm sitting at an Freightliner Oasis in Az waiting for a metal replacement pan. My COMPOSITE pan has a crack in it. It appears it got hit by something, i.e. road debris, rock, curb or something that caused it to crack. $1200 for new metal replacement. I'm really disappointed in Cummins for using a plastic pan.
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It may be worth your time to contact Cummins directly to see what they say. I have a 400 ISL early ULSD engine and it has a steel oil pan. Freightliner may not be to interested in checking for a warranty claim. You have nothing to loose!
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Thanks. I have sent them an inquiry but have not received a response yet. I did point out that I thought this was a poor application in a rear engine chassis more subject to road hazzards. I'll let you all know what I hear.
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My 425 ISL-07 has a composite pan. OK so far, but I'll keep watching it. We run on gravel a lot.

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I'm on the road again, $1,999.98 bucks later. Still no reply from Cummins. Kodo's to Kirk and staff at Freightliner tolleson Az. This is a real class act 30 amp hook ups and a very competent bunch people. I'll return every year for maint. Happy to be sporting a new metal pan but dissapointed that Cummins would even think of a composite pan.:( especially in a rear engine application
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I'm on the road again, $1,999.98 bucks later. Still no reply from Cummins. Kodo's to Kirk and staff at Freightliner tolleson Az. This is a real class act 30 amp hook ups and a very competent bunch people. I'll return every year for maint. Happy to be sporting a new metal pan but dissapointed that Cummins would even think of a composite pan.:( especially in a rear engine application
WOW!! I couldn't believe my eye when I saw $1200 for a replacement. I'm going to check mine tomorrow and if I have the composite pan I'm going to see if I can put a deflector infront of it or something to deflect road debris. Thanks for the post!!
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Just Wondering Why couldn't you just do a fiberglass repair?
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Freightliner service didn't think anything would hold. Plus to be honest I did not want to continue with a plastic pan. Cummins did respond with an statement that they would cover replacement if the crack was not caused by road hazzard however the service people said mine had been hit by something. Still dissapointed as I feel this was a very poor application for a rear engine chassis.
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Here is the note from Cummins

Cummins has superceded the old composite pans to the stamped steel pan,
this is being done as a product improvement. However, to be covered by
Cummins Warranty, the dealer would have to determine if the oil pan failure
should be covered by warranty or not. If the oil pan was damaged by debris
from the road, then it is not a warrantable failure. If the oil pan
developed a crack on its own, then it would be covered by warranty
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It just amazes me the stupidity... a plastic pan on an engine like this... even on trucks, the possibility of road debris kicking up and hitting it is high...

Just dumb. With a metal pan, yes it could be dented and surely punctured and leak, but not really crack and flood out all the oil.

Just sitting here shaking my head....

If Cummins were smart, they would offer replacement metal pans at a small amount over cost...

And I for one, would not want a plastic pan... and there is no way on my coach to provide any protection for it even if I had one..
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