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Old 08-25-2018, 12:03 AM   #57
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Me too! It appears to be ISX series problem. Ours was ISX-12 500.
38000 miles #6 cylinder.
Coach built in 2012.
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Old 08-26-2018, 11:54 AM   #58
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In response to these comments, there are at least 2 600 hp Foretravel Phenix coaches that we personally know of which had this exact issue and Foretravel used a transmission retarder not an engine brake on those coaches.
What year coaches and engine are those two coaches?
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1st time poster...long time reader ....08 Navigator...600ISX 48,000miles ...appears that it ate a valve....have read many others with same problem...would anyone be interested in joining me in a class action suit? Ridiculous to allow Cummins to make a profit for bad design and /or poor quality...48,000 miles is insignificant it today's automobile gasoline engines , let alone an industrial / commercial type diesel engines...engine failure at this mileage in simply unheard of...please let me know if you have interest in jumping into my party wagon.
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what year coaches and engine are those two coaches?
2009, isx
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please let me know if you have interest in jumping into my party wagon.
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Update...as I suspected , number 6 cylinder is dead...of course Cummins charged me $400 to tell me this with all their fancy tests...I simply cooled the engine down, fired her up an held a wet rag on the exhaust manifold. I knew in seconds what took Cummins 2 hours to determine, after my unit sat for a week... But of course I needed and estimate from Cummins to proceed in court, so I endured. I am having it towed home to repair on my own...after discussing the repair with Cummins tech's. I wouldn't let them repair a broken fishing line. Took them an hour to find the slide out buttons and leveling gear buttons...Thanks to Lady Puffin, Just for fun, Mr.d and dusterboy for your interest! We have a long way to go, we need 100 plantiff's ...I hope some other's will join in...
I have attached images of the repair estimate...approx. $ 25,000. After towing it will be $30,000...expensive for 48000 miles / 1100 hours....that's a whopping 45 days of run time...I have a 1987 973 Caterpillar High lift with 10,000 hours and it has yet to ever miss a beat and it is abused digging in the dirt. Interesting reading to follow...

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I hardly think not being able to find a slide out and levelling buttons is a sign of a bad engine mechanic. Just my 2cents. Just a side note there are procedures that they have to follow. They probably knew damn well which cylinder was dead in the first few minutes but each step followed and documented in the system. Sometimes it can be a lengthy process.
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LOL...that's so funny! Here's my funny for the day...There are those who use mathematics to conclude 10 + 10 = 20. Then there are those that that need to follow a procedure such as removing their shoes and socks to count to 20....and in this case...it took the individual an hour to untie their mommies bunny ear loops in their shoes.
Let's get to the bottom line Cummins is a union shop....the pay and insurance benefits are terrible, the morale is horrible, employees that were left over from the days of independent dealers hate the company. The employees have knowledge of the defects in the products. Finally the stock is in the crapper...Down 11 percent this year verses and industry increase of 14 percent. Cummins is frankly a mess.
Most importantly to me personally they built an industrial motor that only ran properly for 1100 hours....that's terrible performance.
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08Navigator,

As far as the litigation, have you thought about searching the trucker forums for folks with the same issue. Would expect many more 600/650 ISX motors in trucks than motorhomes.

Also the truckers will push the motors much harder than RVers.

Just a thought.
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The 600 and 650HP ISX are RV versions only.
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The 600 and 650HP ISX are RV versions only.
Not correct, OTR truck's had both........I drove them.......
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I have met truckers with the ISX 600/650
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One trucker I met had 800,000 miles on his ISX 600
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Not correct, OTR truck's had both........I drove them.......
According to Cummins published literature the 650 was only for high end RV's but you never know.
Theory I last heard was that the EGR system was dumping the acid laced gasses onto the #6 intake and the acid ate into the valve till it failed. That does make sense since the truckers put a lot of miles on and an RV sits. The truck engines would burn off the acid all the time while, in an RV, the acid would sit and eat onto the valve.
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