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Old 10-01-2015, 08:57 PM   #29
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Follow up--Got out of the mud and started north. After 2 hrs stopped in a rest area. When ready to leave engine would not turn over even with the battery assist from the coach batts. Could hear clicking behind dash. Now in a motel room and coach is at a Kenworth dealer that does Cummins work.
Good thing I really like fulltiming or I'd hang it up right now--frustrated.

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Old 10-02-2015, 08:50 AM   #30
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Cranks, Won't Start

I have checked all the fuses. Tried the air compressor last night. About 25 minutes and no start. I am afraid that I am going to have to tow it to Cummins SE. Thanks for your help guys.
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Old 10-02-2015, 01:28 PM   #31
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Is there a NAPA, or other store, where you could rent/borrow an error code detector? Usually they give their own code, and it takes some work to transfer it to a Cummins code. But, it could give you and idea on what is going on...

(And if I missed that you have pulled codes already, apology!)

Good luck to you, and please keep us in the loop as this evolves to a solution.
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Old 10-02-2015, 07:47 PM   #32
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Turns out it was 2 bad batteries. I did check them with a voltmeter and got 12.7v each. Must have been a surface charge. I see a battery load tester in my future. LOL
Just curious---held down the aux start button and that did not help. Maybe batts were too dead?

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Old 10-14-2015, 08:53 AM   #33
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Had ours replaced for around $800,parts and labor
Where did you get it replaced, Cummins Atlantic in Roanoke, Va just told me, on the phone, that it is a very difficult and time consuming job which will take all day and the labor alone is going to be over $1000 plus $328 for the part! Sounds way excessive to me, looking at it I can't imagine a good mechanic taking much more than and hour to two hours to replace it. Very accessible at top of engine under the engine cover on my bed, takes me less than 15 minutes to remove the engine cover, think Cummins Atlantic thinks I just fell off the turnip truck. Will be looking for a non-highway robbery mechanic!


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For me my lift pump had never been replaced so the bolts were pretty much frozen. Now that the pump has been replace the next time will be much easier. I made an easy access panel to get at my filter and pump from a luggage compartment which really helps so I don't have to reach down from the top. No fumes will go in the cabin area. DW has breathing problems so I keep the bedroom spotless and no fuel fumes.

As I recall I paid 175 for the pump. Even though it was a knuckle buster to remove the bolts I would never consider that it was worth 1000 in labor charges. The install was very easy.
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For me my lift pump had never been replaced so the bolts were pretty much frozen. Now that the pump has been replace the next time will be much easier. I made an easy access panel to get at my filter and pump from a luggage compartment which really helps so I don't have to reach down from the top. No fumes will go in the cabin area. DW has breathing problems so I keep the bedroom spotless and no fuel fumes.

As I recall I paid 175 for the pump. Even though it was a knuckle buster to remove the bolts I would never consider that it was worth 1000 in labor charges. The install was very easy.
Did you have to disconnect any fuel lines? If so was there any difficulty with reconnecting fuel lines, does the pump come with all new parts needed?

Thanks for info.

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Did you have to disconnect any fuel lines? If so was there any difficulty with reconnecting fuel lines, does the pump come with all new parts needed?

Thanks for info.

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You have to disconnect the input and output fuel lines. No problem connecting them back up. In any mechanic situation always get everything started before tightening the three bolts and fuel lines. I have and older 24V ISB so yours is probably different.

As a precaution I did get some new banjo washers from cummins. That's all I needed.

For your engine you can download part numbers and a diagram from
quickserve.cummins.com You can get a free username and PW.

All part numbers for the pump are listed from the first to the one currently in use. Try to get the most recent but if in a bind you can use an older PN. They change PNs when they change MFGRs.
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I, too, have been having issues with fuel and pump(s), and trying to learn.

Sure is tough trying to decipher what's going-on with all of the cross-posts and multiple hijacks. I'm just saying...
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I, too, have been having issues with fuel and pump(s), and trying to learn.

Sure is tough trying to decipher what's going-on with all of the cross-posts and multiple hijacks. I'm just saying...
Rusty,

My apologies, I am not certain how my initial reply about transfer pumps got cross posted.

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Fixed! Turned out to be the ECM. $2500 to replace. I drove it to my park...and the generator no longer works. Not a peep. ARGGGGGG! I'll call Cummins SE Monday morning.
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