Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > POWER TRAIN GARAGE FORUMS > Cummins Engines
Click Here to Login
Register FilesVendors Registry Blogs FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search Log in
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 12-05-2019, 06:12 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
CountryB's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 5,819
ISX15 and QSX15 Liner Lobbing and Piston-Liner Change History TSBs

I did not see this Cummins TSBs posted elsewhere - so here they are:

One is about a defective Liner machining process causing excessive oil consumption;

the other TSB is about the changes (history) of the Piston and Liners (1998 - Current).

__________________________________________________ ___________
The defect described in the first TSB is do to a manufacturing defect of the liners themselves. The liners are made in China by a Wisconsin supplier named Menominee. The liners are then shipped to Menominee in WI and machined. The problem is the were using a 3 stone hone on the liners which left a lobing pattern of high and low spots that would then cause oil consumption. This oil consumption woul happen early life and be noticeable before 50K miles of delivery of truck. The supplier ran into supply issues keeping up with demand and perhaps used a cheaper hone or sped up the process which caused the issue. The curious thing is, when they fell behind, they asked their Chinese supplier to help out be doing some honing in China. The Chinese used a 6 stone hone and suffered NO lobing issues. Anyway when the liners were supplied to Cummins there was no distinguishing which liners we WI Vs China honed. You could have had an engine with liners from both in one engine. Cummins has no quality control process for determining which supplier honing process was used so its possible to have two engines built in a row with all Chinese, all Wisconsin or a mixture during this time.

So, if you have early life high oil consumption it is NOT carbon packing. It is probably liner lobing and should have the liners replaced. You also want them to replace the pistons to the new "APR" (Anti-Polishing Ring" style piston liner to avoid future Carbon packing issues.

Also FYI , the 2010-2013 built ISX15 engines suffered terrible fuel pump failure rates due to ceramic plunger failures in the fuel pump due to debris in the oil due to a poorly designed oil bypass valve that would stick open and allow unfiltered oil through.

And the Camshafts were prone to damage from having too much of a crown on the rollers leading to high stress there and poor roller bearing materials that would degrade and oxidize causing them the hang or stutter thus causing the oil film to be scraped off the camshaft and scratching it. Once scratched, the cam would eventually beat on that scratch until it flat spotted.

So if you have one of these engine apart for rebuilding, you want to be aware of the issues and be sure to get the updated parts and thoroughly inspect your fuel pump and cam.
__________________
Mike --- 2005 Beaver Patriot Thunder CAT C13 525HP --Links below to my OneDrive docs---
*SMC, Beaver, Monaco History, Problems https://1drv.ms/f/s!AtvAXw_lfqbToxXYREK9YdBP08Jn
*Monaco Wiring Diagrams https://1drv.ms/f/s!AtvAXw_lfqbTm0WTuuNqpn9a8hCh
CountryB is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 12-05-2019, 08:40 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
RVNewbie55's Avatar
 
Newmar Owners Club
Holiday Rambler Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Phoenix,Az
Posts: 527
Wow! Very interesting. Thanks for posting
__________________
2017 Newmar London Aire 4519 Freightliner Chassis
600/1950. 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit
RVNewbie55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2019, 07:30 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 4,034
If you follow any trucker forums or radio shows the ISX is considered a reason to not buy a used truck with that equipment. There are even more issues.
__________________
Moisheh
2008 Dynasty 42' Diamond IV
1988 Bluebird PT38
2009 Silverado Toad
moisheh is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Other TSBs jestew3 Entegra Owner's Forum 3 03-29-2019 07:32 AM
ISX15 and X15 recall coming Coral Cummins Engines 0 10-30-2018 07:41 AM
A history lesson for people who think that history doesn't matter: pumper9x9 RV'ing Humor & Crazy but True Stories 9 10-01-2017 02:18 PM
Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs) RoadRohrers Ford Motorhome Chassis Forum 4 12-24-2014 12:51 PM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.