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Old 06-15-2018, 03:34 PM   #1
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I guess it started yesterday.We are getting ready to head out to Seattle to visit our newest Granddaughter along with our Son, Daughter-in-law and two other Grandchildren. When I pulled the coach (2004 Winnebago Journey 36g)out of the barn the CEL came on for a few minutes but went off. I called Crosspoint Cummins Ft Wayne to see if they could get it in to read the code. I took it up this morning and left it, hoping that they could get to it asap. They called this afternoon to tell me that it needs a new turbo, the one on it now is "stuck". I'm looking @ about $4700 repair.
Since we are leaving next Sunday I said to go ahead and replace it. I was still confused about the "stuck" part of the turbo. We drove the MH 80 miles to the facility and it ran perfectly. The service manager didn't know what the tech was talking about so she was no help.
This is the fifth turbo this coach has had since new. One the first 29,000 miles, three up to 48,000 miles and now this one. I think we are "snakebit" when it comes to turbos.
I called Cummins and talked to a Gentleman there and got some direction on which way to go as far as some consideration from Cummins on the repairs. We aren't holding our breath with a 14 year old coach and 9 year old turbo.
We bought this coach new with expectations of it being our "last" coach, It looks like it will be, if it doesn't bankrupt us first.
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Old 06-16-2018, 06:04 AM   #2
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My two guesses are as follows.

1, "Stuck" = Cant get it loose from the manifold
2, "Stuck" = The center shaft of the turbo has seized
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..... ran like a top, no problems, no CEL, why is it at Cummins?
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Replacing the turbo but you drove it 80 miles to the Cummins place and it ran like a top with no issues?
Why are you replacing the turbo then?
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Old 06-16-2018, 06:24 AM   #5
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Get something in writing as to what's wrong.

The statement, " the turbo is stuck " makes no sense.

Service managers are typically not mechanics but should at least have a clue of what they are talking about.
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Possibly the waste gate mechanism?? On mine it cannot be serviced separately. The engine would still run fine, but could overspeed the turbo under heavy load.
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Some owners have had their air filter come a part and cause their turbo to be damaged or stuck. On paper air filter the glue comes a part and the paper air filter material then damages turbo. Cummins and Spartan now recommending replacing paper air filter once a year because of the problem. The problem is related to the air filter getting wet which causes the glue to come a part which then lets paper go to turbo. Most RV air filterare Farr paper filters.
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You can buy a new turbo for $170.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DODGE-RAM-2...QAAOSw9LlajYSm
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Purchased a rebuilt turbo for a 500 ISM for a 04 Spartan on a Mewmar coach with 18% discount for 1800 dollars. You might get a 5.9 or 6.7 for 170$ but not a ISM 500.
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The paper filters are moisture resistance. Meaning: they hold up to getting wet. I did it to a new Farr. Took 3 days for moisture on surface to evaporate. Did not soak in. The filters will withstand much heat and abuse. As in a installation. Mine is 4 years old and looks brand new.
Yearly I carefully vacuum it out on the inside. Big waste of money and time replacing it yearly.
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If your ‘04 has the VGT turbo, the variable vanes are notorious for sticking. Depending on the stage at which they are stuck, the engine will still run and produce power.
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The paper filters are moisture resistance. Meaning: they hold up to getting wet. I did it to a new Farr. Took 3 days for moisture on surface to evaporate. Did not soak in. The filters will withstand much heat and abuse. As in a installation. Mine is 4 years old and looks brand new.
Yearly I carefully vacuum it out on the inside. Big waste of money and time replacing it yearly.
Not expensive at all compared to replacing a turbo and having the CAC cleaned. Filter manufacturers recommend yearly because the glue holding the ends breaks down, not because they get too dirty in that amount of time.
And a rebuild on a "dusted" engine isn't cheap either.
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