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Old 01-02-2019, 05:13 PM   #1
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First Oil sample test

Need help understanding significance of report.

1996 Cat C7 with approximately 50K miles. I had about 3K miles on oil since change to Mobil 15W40 bulk.

This is my first Altorfer test so it will serve as my base.

Attached report (hope it works this time).

I have some concerns about the oxidation and viscosity. Anyone know what an acceptable viscosity would be for bulk Mobil 15w40 or when I would need to change the oil?

I would suspect that I should take the next oil sample with this oil so that the readings would show any increases/decreases. Is this correct?

Any other areas I should be concerned about?

Appreciate your assistance in learning how to read and use these reports. Thanks in advance - Richard
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Viscosity looks good. https://wiki.anton-paar.com/en/sae-viscosity-grades/

I'm not familiar with the format from the lab you're using but in general any concerns oxidation or otherwise will be highlighted and spelled out in the reports.

Unless you are very interested in the minutiae of oil blends switching brands from one change to the next is no concern.

Sudden changes in wear metals, silicon (air filter), and coolant or fuel in oil are the things to look for.
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Thanks finance. I'll be watching as we go.
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Richard,
Just wondering, what is the "1996" meaning? Is that a model number? The C-7 didn't really appear 'till late '03 and was actually introduced in the '04 model coaches, like ours. Ours has a chassis production date of 10/03 and a coach build date of 11/03 but, is labeled as an '04. And, to my understanding, the first of the C-7s were installed in or around, Sept or Oct of '03. This is why I ask the question.
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Scott,

My chassis build date is 0906 and coach build date was 11/06 so even though it is listed as a 1997 but IL made me register it as a 1996 based on chassis build date. Didn't know about when C7 came into use so thanks for info.

DP doing great as we work out the bugs but not going anywhere until April so will be checking with Olympia about a 2nd year ESP just to provide a basis for security and provide time to do 2nd oil sample for comparison.
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My chassis build date is 0906 and coach build date was 11/06 so even though it is listed as a 1997 but IL made me register it as a 1996 based on chassis build date.
Doesn't that make it a "2007" (or 2006) rather than a "1997"?
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Doesn't that make it a "2007" (or 2006) rather than a "1997"?
Yeah, my head's still spinning on this. How in the world does a state DMV interpret a vehicle with build dates in either '06 or '07, as being a 1997 vehicle? Man, those are some Twighlight zone employees for sure.
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Your sample looks great, I have been using Cat lab for over 42 years. I get my sample kits for $13.50 (10 at a time) and send mine into Peterson Cat.
I would only go 5-6000mi then do an oil change and only use Cat Advanced High Efficiency filters (oil & fuel)and change fuel filters every other oil change because of the HEUI pump. On another note don't forget about the air dryer filter, it needs to be changed also about every other year.
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CountryB, It was a test and you and Scott passed. LOL

Getting interrupted by electricians and carpenters this morning kept me jumping and instead of 2006 my mind said 1996. Sorry guys but thanks for bringing it to my attention.

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CountryB, It was a test and you and Scott passed. LOL

Getting interrupted by electricians and carpenters this morning kept me jumping and instead of 2006 my mind said 1996. Sorry guys but thanks for bringing it to my attention.

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Roger that Richard. Been there, done that a few times myself.
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Your sample looks great, I have been using Cat lab for over 42 years. I get my sample kits for $13.50 (10 at a time) and send mine into Peterson Cat.
I would only go 5-6000mi then do an oil change and only use Cat Advanced High Efficiency filters (oil & fuel)and change fuel filters every other oil change because of the HEUI pump. On another note don't forget about the air dryer filter, it needs to be changed also about every other year.
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I bought this 2005 safari 350 cat, it has 52,000 miles on it, and 400 some hours on generator. I change filters back to cat filters. Now that I read about this c-7 acert, how important to keep up with clean filters. I have seen on irv2 about a huie filter(503-7470) whether it's worth the money?? I want to have the oil tested, there's 2500 miles on oil change right now. this c-7 has been setting a lot these years, I would like to know what's going on in the engine. Where to get the supply to test the c-7 oil, I'm in Mo. St Louis 100 miles away. Thanks.. Randy
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Randy,

I went with Altofer because it is the Caterpillar's designated supplier. I bought mine at my local Cat Dealer. I sent the sample in on Friday and received my answer the following Monday afternoon.

My oil had about 3000 miles on it after my 1st oil change. The best I can figure my DP had set in a barn for about 5 years. It runs great and the test showed everything is within normal ranges. Will be taking a 2nd sample for test just prior to next oil change as i want to see if I have any abnormal internal wear.

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