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12-04-2017, 07:20 AM
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I asked because I was curious what other C13’s were getting. Didn’t mean to hijack the thread.
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12-04-2017, 11:44 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Location: Orlando, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slemnah
If you PM me with your email address I will send you a bunch of material on this engine. I also have the repair manual for the motor if you ever need some info. Look forward to hearing from you.
Steve
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Thanks for the info Steve.
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12-09-2017, 07:40 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
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I finally got oil filter cut open. Not a spec of metal.
It was a pain cutting it open (even with the filter cutting tool I bought) because I didn't have a good way to hold it. And it takes three hands to hold the filter and work the tool.
But I'm glad I did. Now I have relief that all is well with this engine.
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12-09-2017, 01:40 PM
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Location: Oroville, CA
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Title, registration, new oil, Whoopee!
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Bill, Kathi and Zorro; '05 Beaver Patriot Thunder
2012 Sunnybrook Harmony 21FBS (SQEZINN)
2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland
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12-09-2017, 02:40 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cruzbill
Title, registration, new oil, Whoopee!
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Thanks.
Nice to see a fellow Patriot owner.
Are you a member of the "Beaver Ambassador Club", Bill?
Another great resource BAC Forum - Index
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12-09-2017, 02:51 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Oroville, CA
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Yup, BAC member; good group!
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2012 Sunnybrook Harmony 21FBS (SQEZINN)
2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland
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12-09-2017, 02:53 PM
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B, I think you said your Aladdin had your fuel mileage at 5.9; mine is 5.5 and I bet I know why-Mountains here in the west, not so much in Fla!
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2012 Sunnybrook Harmony 21FBS (SQEZINN)
2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland
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12-09-2017, 07:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CountryB
Thanks.
Nice to see a fellow Patriot owner.
Are you a member of the "Beaver Ambassador Club", Bill?
Another great resource BAC Forum - Index
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Same here.... BAC member and I go there often for info and Beaver specific topics. Come here too because there is a much wider group to draw from.
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40 Ft, CAT C12, 455 HP, 1550 Ft Lbs Torque
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12-09-2017, 08:44 PM
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Location: So Cal
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People always seem to go to a FREE place. BAC does cost to join and the info Is Priceless!
Mike , Good to see spotless results when you inspect the filter element
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12-10-2017, 10:01 PM
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Gulf Streamers Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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We tore down an old, large hospital emergency generator, at not low expense, based on an oil analysis, and FOUND NO PROBLEMS. DO NOT LET ONE oil analysis ALONE scare you into spending unnecessary $$; may suggest maybe oil changes and 2-3 oil analysis over time. RESULTS MAYBE A BAD LAB, or mistaken conclusion?
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12-20-2017, 04:53 PM
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American Coach Owners Club
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Location: SW Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CountryB
I just bought a 2005 Beaver Patriot Thunder (the 525hp C13) with 45,900 miles on odometer. Everything looks good, sounds good, and it runs good.
I sent the oil out for analysis (sample taken right after a 1-hour drive).
The report indicates that Copper is high. It's 96 ppm. Normal or Average, according to the report, is around 17.
All the other numbers look good (Iron 37, aluminum 3, lead 2, tin 1, chromium 1, Molybdenum 45, etc.).
The report comments says
Based on the previous owners service records, it looks like it only had one engine oil change (or the paperwork is just missing for any other oil changes done).
Do you agree with this? Should I just change the oil now to be safe? Of course, just changing the oil is not going to fix anything in the engine if something was wrong. Should I get one of those Extended Warranty Plans on the engine (I did a quote at $1,000/year on a three year plan ($3000 total paid upfront)).
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I'd change the oil, run it for some miles and then get another analysis, before doing anything else.
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12-20-2017, 05:05 PM
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Is this sample from the oil you dumped?
If so, I suggest you run it for 500 or even a 1000 miles and pull another sample. That will give you a better comparison. At 96 ppm you are most likely not in any imminent danger at this point. I would not change the oil until you get a 2nd sample and then decide based on the report at that time.
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12-20-2017, 05:16 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dennis45
Is this sample from the oil you dumped?
If so, I suggest you run it for 500 or even a 1000 miles and pull another sample. That will give you a better comparison. At 96 ppm you are most likely not in any imminent danger at this point. I would not change the oil until you get a 2nd sample and then decide based on the report at that time.
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yes, the sample was from the (old) oil in this coach when I bought it in October. I have now changed the oil and will send another sample out when I get a few miles on her.
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12-20-2017, 05:19 PM
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Location: AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CountryB
yes, the sample was from the (old) oil in this coach when I bought it in October. I have now changed the oil and will send another sample out when I get a few miles on her.
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Good plan. Nothing like a 2nd opinion.
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