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06-08-2010, 07:10 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
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Location: Was Fairbanks, AK now Somewhere, Lower 48
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Sorry Folks,
I mislead you all. We got our valve adjustment done at Quin Cat in Bakersfield, CA. We originally brought the MH in due to a power loss going up the mountains between Palm Springs, CA. and Bakersfield, CA. It turns out that we had a bad #3 fuel injector and had it replaced under CAT warranty. While they had the valve cover off I (conveniently) remembered that I needed to get the valvetrain adjusted. They said they would do it and all I had to do was pay the labor for that. Luckily it only took the mechanic a half hour to do the adjustment. They only charged me $80.00!!!
Our motorhome's engine is under the bed. We only have to lift up the bed to get to the 3ft x 4ft engine hatch. The mechanics LOVE this!! It's not like I bought this MH because of that. I was blinded by the cool paintjob and layout.
When Holt CAT suggested a charge of over $600.00 were they thinking of labor to get to the engine? That price is scary!!
In a wierd way we were lucky when we had a bad fuel injector to change out because that is what lead to the cheap valve adjustment.
Cheers,
AKBrick
aka; Tom Brickwell
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2007 Safari Cheetah 40SFD 350 CAT / Allison 3000 / RR8R chassis.
2007 Saturn Vue Auto/front wheel drive toad. Blue Ox Aladdin tow bar. Apollo brake system, Pressure Pro, Surge Guard. 2 Norwich Terriers. Dog shows, golf, RETIRED, fulltimer.
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06-08-2010, 10:03 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Northern Oklahoma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBrick
Sorry Folks,
I mislead you all. We got our valve adjustment done at Quin Cat in Bakersfield, CA. We originally brought the MH in due to a power loss going up the mountains between Palm Springs, CA. and Bakersfield, CA. It turns out that we had a bad #3 fuel injector and had it replaced under CAT warranty. While they had the valve cover off I (conveniently) remembered that I needed to get the valvetrain adjusted. They said they would do it and all I had to do was pay the labor for that. Luckily it only took the mechanic a half hour to do the adjustment. They only charged me $80.00!!!
Our motorhome's engine is under the bed. We only have to lift up the bed to get to the 3ft x 4ft engine hatch. The mechanics LOVE this!! It's not like I bought this MH because of that. I was blinded by the cool paintjob and layout.
When Holt CAT suggested a charge of over $600.00 were they thinking of labor to get to the engine? That price is scary!!
In a wierd way we were lucky when we had a bad fuel injector to change out because that is what lead to the cheap valve adjustment.
Cheers,
AKBrick
aka; Tom Brickwell
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Glad to hear that it only takes 1/2 hour to do an adjustment after getting to the valve compartment. Foley Cat in Wichita wants $450 for a valve adjustment and getting to the my engine is as simple as yours was. When asked for an estimate they don't even ask were the engine accessibility is, just that it will be $450. Guess they figure some jobs may take longer and some less time so they just quote one price. I'll ask them again but tell them all the mechanic has to do is raise the bed and remove the plate. Maybe they'll come up with a different estimate.
Wagonmaster2
2004 Meridian 36G
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06-09-2010, 07:58 PM
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#31
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Was Fairbanks, AK now Somewhere, Lower 48
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Folks, please remember that the mechanics already had the valve cover off when they changed out the fuel injector which was work under CAT warranty before they did the valve lash adjustment! Don't use the $80.00 that they charged me as a guideline for another dealer's labor charge.
Cheers again,
AKBrick
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2007 Safari Cheetah 40SFD 350 CAT / Allison 3000 / RR8R chassis.
2007 Saturn Vue Auto/front wheel drive toad. Blue Ox Aladdin tow bar. Apollo brake system, Pressure Pro, Surge Guard. 2 Norwich Terriers. Dog shows, golf, RETIRED, fulltimer.
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06-10-2010, 09:33 PM
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Modesto, CA
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I talked to Cat yesterday concerning the valve adjustment on my Cat C-7 and they said, they recommend adjustment at 25,000-30,000 miles or the 3rd oil change........and then each 100,000 miles after that. They said approx 4 hours of labor.......which is inline with the qoutes I've received, which have been been from $450 to $650. Accessibility is a big factor in price.
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06-11-2010, 01:53 PM
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#33
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Forest River Owners Club
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Location: Southwest Missouri
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Just had my valves adjusted this week at Fabick Cat in Springfield, MO. Coach has 35,000 miles on it. Cost was $350 that included a full service with fuel filters replaced.
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2020 Sunseeker LE
2010 Honda Fit and Buster, the wonder dog
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06-11-2010, 09:15 PM
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Location: Northern Oklahoma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Teach
Just had my valves adjusted this week at Fabick Cat in Springfield, MO. Coach has 35,000 miles on it. Cost was $350 that included a full service with fuel filters replaced.
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What did a "full service" include besides the fuel filters and valve adjustments? What all do they have to do on your coach to get to the engine. Four hours labor seems awfully long just to uncover the engine and adjust the valves when several of the back-yard mechanics say they can do it in a couple of hours, that is unless it includes driving the coach into the stall, gathering up tools, checking the repair manuals to be sure the right clearances are used, washing hands and tools after the job, writing up the statement, and moving the coach from the stall. Agreed this all takes the mechanics time but $120/hour for this menial stuff seems a little steep.
Wish Springfield was about 150 miles closer to me, I'd sure head there for my adjustment.
Wagonmaster2
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06-21-2010, 07:39 AM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Forest River Owners Club
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Full service included oil and filter change, two fuel filters, air cleaner and chassis lube. To get to the top of the engine they had to take a floor panel up in the bedroom (I raised the bed for them).
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2020 Sunseeker LE
2010 Honda Fit and Buster, the wonder dog
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06-21-2010, 08:53 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: May 2009
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Run the Overhead
On my C-12 425 hp, it is called "Running The Overhead" and it is a three part process.
1. Adjust the valve lash.
2. Adjust the pre-load on the injectors.
3. Adjust the engine compression brake slave (jake brake)
Total Cost was $ 291.00
They showed me another customer's C-12, that was disassembled prior to overhauling. If you don't keep the valves adjusted, performance is down and there is a lot of wear and tear going on, that shouldn't be.
I did the prep work including running plastic from the front door to the engine so the only labor was the actual hands on work. This way they charged me the truck rate per hour rather than the RV rate which is $ 40 per hour more.
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Lubbock, Tx
1999 Beaver Patriot Thunder
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06-21-2010, 01:13 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Northern Oklahoma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Teach
Full service included oil and filter change, two fuel filters, air cleaner and chassis lube. To get to the top of the engine they had to take a floor panel up in the bedroom (I raised the bed for them).
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Wow, what a deal you got there. Foley's Cat in Wichita, Ks wants $450 just to adjust the valves on a Cat C-7 330 HP.
Wagonmaster2
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