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Old 07-22-2013, 12:14 PM   #29
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Good advice here as usual. Just changed my filters and fluid and am having a really difficult time seeing where the fluid level is on the dipstick. By the time that 6' dipstick makes all the bends it ends up with fluid all over it. Once I get it on the road and warmed up I can check it with the auto check but am trying to see if I am close. Anybody have a trick up your sleeve to make this a little more simple? BTW, it says it takes 16 qt with the 2" sump. I assume that is the amount without the converter and cooling lines etc being drained. Is that correct?

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Allison says it is more accurate to use the keypad to check the oil level.

Unfortunatly there is a wide range in how much it will take to refill the system. Depending on where the cooler is mounted by the chassis builder, which cooler it is, and how long the lines to it are, there may be quite a bit more or less than Allison says.

Next time I plan on measuring how much I get out and using that as a starting point for filling.
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:33 PM   #30
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Great advice here. If it weren't July in Texas i probably (might) have done it myself. Took it up to Inland Truck Parts today. They will do it in the morning and I can pick it around lunch time. Sure beats working under a hot motor/trans when it's like 100 degrees outside. Just sayin.
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:06 PM   #31
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Allison says it is more accurate to use the keypad to check the oil level.

Unfortunatly there is a wide range in how much it will take to refill the system. Depending on where the cooler is mounted by the chassis builder, which cooler it is, and how long the lines to it are, there may be quite a bit more or less than Allison says.

Next time I plan on measuring how much I get out and using that as a starting point for filling.
I think the volume quoted by Allison is real close. I have pictures of how much I got out and it Shure looks like the right amount.
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Hi guys - I'm trying to order the filters to service my Allison 3000. I'm fairly certain I have the 4" sump, but I wanted your advice before I order. Would you mind taking a look at the picture and confirm or deny?

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4 inch sump is the norm not the exception.

Just had mine done last week. Switched over to TransSynd with the High Capacity Filter Kit.

The kit number is 29548988

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The kit number is 29545776 for the 2" Pan.
On mine for 2 changes it took 16 qt. both times.
I put 15 qt in then check with key pad.
It always says 2 qt low. I put in one more qt. then it says OK
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To make Shure you get the right parts get the serial number off your transmission. Most places that have the parts will have a book or a computer link that will verify what you need.
Here is a link to Allison http://www.allisontransmission.com/myallisontransmission/mytransmissioninformation/
This is the link to where I bought my kit and Transcend. http://www.inlandtruck.com/locations/ftworth-tx.php
You will need 5 gallon of fluid.
Be shure to use a good torque wrench when you tighten the filter bolts. I would also recommend being carful when removing the old gasket on the filter covers as they and the case are alumanim alloy and you can scratch them easaley. A deep scratch could creat a leak path.
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Yep, that's a 4" sump. You'll need 19 quarts of Transynd (+ or -).
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Finally got around to changing the filters in my 3000MH. Worse part is getting under the MH to get to the filter caps. When I bought the fluid I followed the Allison site estimate of how much fluid I'd lose changing the filters. Bought 3 gal of Delvac, used exactly two quarts!! Oh well, I now have enough Synthetic to do the next 5 changes.
Didn't have any trouble with the bolts or the torquing. The gaskets came right off with no scraping. I won't be able to take it out to heat it up and check the fluid level for a while till I'm done with some interior stuff.
I'm getting too old and fat to roll around under the beast any more, guess I'll have to hang up the wrench and let some guy nip me for a couple of hundred to do the job.
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Odd that the torque values differ from booklet and instructions that come with the new filters. Drain plug is exactly correct, filter covers are stated too low. I guess you could try those low settings.
Sure is expensive fluid. Almost as much as BMW trans fluid.
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Odd that the torque values differ from booklet and instructions that come with the new filters. Drain plug is exactly correct, filter covers are stated too low. I guess you could try those low settings. Sure is expensive fluid. Almost as much as BMW trans fluid.
I just looked at the instruction sheet that was packed with the 2 pack of Allison high capacity filters that I purchased at an Allison distributor last spring. The torque value stated are as follows:

Drain plug. 18-24 lb ft
Cover bolts. 38-45 lb ft

These values have not changed in years.
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Did you watch the video?
It quotes a wrong value in the video.
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