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03-15-2014, 10:14 PM
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Why worry about witches brews. It is a compression engine. Will burn anything including a diesel-propane mix.
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True. As long as it is an old farm tractor
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03-16-2014, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Passin Thru
Why worry about witches brews. It is a compression engine. Will burn anything including a diesel-propane mix.
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I worked with a few guys that had 7.3L Ford Superduties. They would filter used transmission fluid and used that for years instead of buying diesel. Not sure it has the lubrication a high pressure common rail system needs though.
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03-16-2014, 07:16 AM
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True. As long as it is an old farm tractor
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Interestingly enough, the old B-series cummins were originally designed for farm tractors.
-cheers
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03-16-2014, 08:13 AM
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With the newer diesel engines, electronic and emission controls, I would not mix a witches brew and pour it in the tank. The engines are designed and calibrated for diesel fuel.
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03-19-2014, 11:49 AM
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You guys relise the military runs the duramax and runs jet A thru it, I will post when I find the ops manual , same factory tuning as everyone in the civ market.
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03-20-2014, 09:33 AM
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6.6 Military vehicles have no emission systems so it is easier to tweak the CPU to run on almost anything.
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03-20-2014, 12:37 PM
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6.6 Military vehicles have no emission systems so it is easier to tweak the CPU to run on almost anything.
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they have a EGR system and CPU what is that?? you mean ECM and I can install programming into mine with EFI live like I do now , they get the same factory programming as you and I. Nothing is changed for fuel type. we had a military truck in the shop a few years ago and we did look at the factory tune, (owner wanted a custom tune) we made a few adjustments and off he went, like EGR code off and he installed a blocker plate
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03-20-2014, 01:54 PM
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6.6 Military vehicles have no emission systems so it is easier to tweak the CPU to run on almost anything.
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But the hardware aka high pressure pump,injectors have to be able to run reliably with it. Programming means nothing if a pump fails due to fuel.
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03-21-2014, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 6.6
they have a EGR system and CPU what is that?? you mean ECM and I can install programming into mine with EFI live like I do now , they get the same factory programming as you and I. Nothing is changed for fuel type. we had a military truck in the shop a few years ago and we did look at the factory tune, (owner wanted a custom tune) we made a few adjustments and off he went, like EGR code off and he installed a blocker plate
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And what type of fuel do you burn in your truck?
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03-21-2014, 08:02 PM
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ATF was not designed to be burned as fuel. When burned in a combustion chamber it leaves deposits that are not found in diesel fuel or products designed to be burned.
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03-22-2014, 11:01 AM
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And what type of fuel do you burn in your truck?
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I posted this on page 1
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Originally Posted by 6.6
I ran Jet A for 35k miles in my 06, got the fuel from work, the only drawback was loss of power and mileage, but the power loss was low. I added 1/2 gal of two cycle to the 100 gal tank in the bed, And 2 qts of powerservice. I can't get the fuel now because we no longer dump it when tank maint is performed.
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I was not the only mechanic running Jet in their diesels, 2 dmax`s, 3 fords, and 8 dodges most of them were common rails. Our line equipment (diesels) all run on jet, we even have a common rail tug, and A/C 3 Phase power cart with a 6.7 that runs on jet.
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