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Old 10-19-2016, 01:17 PM   #1
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F350 HD Diesel

thanks all...im looking to buy a new 2016 or 2017 ford f350 heavy duty diesel?..8ft box..single axle...im thinking diesel because the 5th wheel that we are considering is a 37+ foot Montana 5th wheel...I don't know if ford has a gas p/u that would pull 15k.mt and about 17k loaded...ive been tossing around between ford..gmc ..dodge...any help would be greatly appreciated...ive talked with a lot of people about the f350 diesel and they are very well satisfied with them..don't really want the extra cost and have had bad experience with dodge 2500 hd diesel...engine went out at 130k ..they still couldn't figure out why...again appreciate any advice...thanks
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You better check the weight numbers on the single axle. You will be overloaded with a 17k 5ver
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thanks all...im looking to buy a new 2016 or 2017 ford f350 heavy duty diesel?..8ft box..single axle
Can we safely assume that you mean a SRW (single rear wheel) and not a Single Axle, as all F-350 are single rear axles.

Second, you should look at your weights carefully before you decide. Use the search feature at the top of the screen there are many many many discussions about SRW vs DRW while towing, should give you hours of reading
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Go over to the 5th Wheel discussion and the Trailer Towing area of this forum. Lots and lots of reading for you there. Good luck. I was told I could pull my trailer with a SRW as well. After bought it and loaded it (17400#) the pin weight was 4125#. Glad I didn't listen to salesman.


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With that weight you need the diesel. Your next 5th will be heavier and you will need it even more. You need the torque.
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Diesel yes, srw doubtful. I have a 3500 srw with gvwr of 12400..I tow 16500 and am just under axle, gvwr and cgvwr. I think I'm at max capacity for a late model srw...dually for anything bigger imo


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Whatever the Montana GVWR is, take 20% of that for the pin weight you will have on the tow vehicle. Any SRW truck will be limited by the carrying capacity of the 2 rear wheels--and that is mostly around 7500lbs at this time.
17k loaded will be about 3400 pin weight--will the rear axle weight with that pin weight be over 7500? Thats your answer.
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Towing a 37' fifth wheel, would seriously consider a dually. SRW I'm an F350 would tow fine in straight line- no crosswind environments. But you get in the high turbulence - crosswinds the SRW run the risk of sway. The high pin weight is concerning as well. I towed a 11,000 lb travel trailer with 1,400 lbs of pin weight with a 2011 F350- it was at I felt max the truck could handle. Being not afraid of anything- the SRW is limited by tire contact on the ground. Bought a new F350 dually - unimaginable difference, plus it's an awesome piece of equipment
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Of course, everyone could just look at the towing guides:

http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/...e_r3_Oct19.pdf
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The new '17s have a higher tow and carry capacity, so you may want to nix the idea of the '16. As listed by Ford, you would be okay on the F350 SRW. However, I would recommend to be ready for expansion (of your future RV) and get the F350 DRW, less sway, more tire to the road etc Good luck!
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The new '17s have a higher tow and carry capacity, so you may want to nix the idea of the '16. As listed by Ford, you would be okay on the F350 SRW. However, I would recommend to be ready for expansion (of your future RV) and get the F350 DRW, less sway, more tire to the road etc Good luck!
Agree. I towed with a SRW, pushing 23K GCWR at times. It was work. Now I have DRW and have hit over 28K GCWR moving dozers and very stable.

Don't even feel the current 5th wheel.
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These Motor Trend guys have a real good video on the 2017 Platinum Dually...

https://youtu.be/MltPWJms2is
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I've had many diesel pickups and driven them all. My preference is the Cummins as there are fewer moving parts and a simplified fuel injection system. This results in better mileage.

My current truck is a loaded 2012 Cummins and I love it. Granted I've sunk a lot of money into it (especially the front end) but never any issues with the motor. The last Ford I drove would randomly shut down under load and it was found that the thermocouple on the exhaust shorted out sending the computer in a tailspin. I drove it unloaded so having a massive trailer would be scary if that happened. The new Denali from GM is very nice but likely the most expensive too. I don't have any repairs experience there I'm afraid.

Basically, they are all very close in real world power and quality of workmanship.

If I wanted super smooth ride, I'd probably go GM. If I wanted a very nice truck with a solid axle for better towing and off road use I'd likely go Ford and if you are like me and want the best mileage and lower cost to maintain go Cummins.

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