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03-08-2016, 08:09 PM
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Hello from Reno Nevada...
Thanks for having this cool site.
I'm a mechanic, and I just bought a 97 International 4700 Low Profile 5th wheel puller, with a DT466 engine and Allison Auto Trans.
I'm looking for a couple things:
1. Does anyone know how much these tractors weigh? It has a "Hotshot style bed with an air ride 5th wheel hitch. I'll attempt to upload a pic.
2. I'm looking for a similar bed to replace this one. Any leads? New or used, as long as it's the right one and works well.
The hitch on this one is good, and for the meantime, I was planning on cutting off all the bent and broken stuff and putting rear fenders on it and keeping the flat plate with the 5th wheel hitch on the truck.
Any info is sincerely appreciated.
I tried to upload a pic, but I only got a URL link for pics and I don't have a URL for them. If you have one of these trucks, you'll know what I'm talking about. Thanks!
Have Fun!
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03-09-2016, 04:00 AM
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Nor'easters Club Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Sorry I can't help but if you upload some pictures or also post on RV forums above under 5th wheel discussions you may get your answer. Good luck.
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03-09-2016, 07:16 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Welcome to IRV2! We're sure glad you joined us!
Congrats on the new rig! Sorry I can't help with your questions. Keep her between the ditches!
Good luck, happy trails, and God bless!
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03-09-2016, 07:40 AM
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Junior Member
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Thank you. I tried to upload a pic here, but I only got a URL link function, nothing where I could choose from my computer pics folder and upload to this server. Am I missing the proper icon for an image upload here? Newbie stuff. Sorry!
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03-09-2016, 08:34 AM
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OK, found the ATTACHMENTS Icon. Here's pics...
I'd like to match this bed or get one very similar to it. Thanks!
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03-10-2016, 09:58 AM
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1. Does anyone know how much these tractors weigh? It has a "Hotshot style bed with an air ride 5th wheel hitch. I'll attempt to upload a pic.
It would be a guess but the best thing you can do is go to a weigh station.
Get the weight for the front and rear wheel split as well as the total weight. This will really come in handy down the road with playing with air pressures, etc. Do you know you axle capacities ? Pin weight of your rig ? BTW, i did the weigh thing with my mdt.
2. I'm looking for a similar bed to replace this one. Any leads? New or used, as long as it's the right one and works well.
There are bunches of companies that make and sell them but it would probably be cheaper just to go down to the local fab shop and have them do it..and you would get *exactly* what you want / need.
3. The hitch on this one is good, and for the meantime, I was planning on cutting off all the bent and broken stuff and putting rear fenders on it and keeping the flat plate with the 5th wheel hitch on the truck.
Looks like you have a McCall ..but really cannot tell from your pics. Awesome hitch. I have seen may class 8s with just the hitch and fenders over the wheels. Not an issue.
It is your rig so do with it as you want. I would however, if it hasn't been done yet, get the commercial rating off it have have it registered as a M/H or camper.
You are going to find that it is a big step up from a pick up.
happry rv'ing...
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03-10-2016, 11:35 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Sorry I can't give you the info you need. The suggestion to take it toa weigh station is a good idea.
CAT Scale Locator | CAT Scale
Best of luck and keep us posted.
Happy Trails!!
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03-10-2016, 11:35 PM
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Thanks for the info Grassy. I'm looking for the tare weight BEFORE I pick an equipment trailer to haul it with from the yard. I called International and they don't even know what it should weigh as a cab and chassis, soooo, I remember my Freightliner FLD120 single axle tractor with an M11 Cummins weighed just over 11k lbs., so, I put this rig a bit under 10k for safety. Once I get it home, I'll roll it across the scales in our little town, and then I'll be sure that it's not too heavy for my 12k lb. 4 post lift, and I can start looking underneath and fixing whatever. It has a coolant leak up front from the wreck, so, a few things to do, but she runs nice and goes smooth, so, we'll make it pretty and reliable soon.
The hitch looks good, swivel head on 4 air bags. My body man says he can pull the bed and square it back up and get the jockey boxes happy again, so, we'll probably stay with the bed and just make it better over the next few months.
It's definitely going to be registered as an RV hauler, non-commercial. It has hydraulic brakes, so, I'll keep it under 26k and the motor carrier individuals can go bother someone else. ;>p
Be Safe!
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03-10-2016, 11:43 PM
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Thanks TonyDi - I appreciate the Cat Scale Locator Link. Really helps on the road after putting a vehicle in the toy hauler, etc... I hope the Jersey Shore isn't too wet these days! I have lots of friends out there, who appear to be in Phoenix right now... ;>) Be Safe out there! I'll keep everyone posted on the progress. Buying a Toy Hauler next.... got a few picked out, running the specs. I want a small one to start, then, I'll get bigger. I also have an old 56 Ford Snub Nose C600 Cabover Style body that I plan to put on a flatbed or rollback wrecker and maybe tow an Airstream, but that's after a few years of prep and paint on the old body and placing it on the later model Cummins 8.3 Mechanical Powered Chassis. All things in time....
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03-11-2016, 04:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 97 Intl 4700
Thanks for the info Grassy. I'm looking for the tare weight BEFORE I pick an equipment trailer to haul it with from the yard.
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Mine weighed in at 13.9K...and we look quite similar.
My hitch is a McCall as well..but I have shocks as well..pm me with your e-mail addy and I will send you a picture.
Grassy
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03-15-2016, 09:41 AM
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Forest River Owners Club
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man that thing to a real hit to the side, I have seen some beds on truck trader on a hit and miss basis at about 5 grand, BTW I have a 4 door Freightliner and tips the scales at 13,500 about the same as grassy's
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03-15-2016, 04:14 PM
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Jeepoholic,
Long time no hear !!! Thanks for confirming my weight..I had wondered a bit because I thought the numbers I rec'ed was light..
Grassy
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03-16-2016, 12:23 AM
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I found a local big rig hauler who is bringing it on his step deck tomorrow. Not worried about weight now, but I'll have it weighed at our local scale soon. It looks like the bed is basically a normal utility bed that the top row of boxes have been removed and the rear portion was cut at a 30 degree angle and covered. We have the capability to do that, so, we'll measure some of the utility beds in the local area then do our cutting and welding and get her back to quasi-normal. I'm already looking at 5th wheels to buy. I want a toy hauler, but not a big one. No tri-axles for me, Jeepaholic. I want to keep it under 30 ft. I just haul a motorcycle and maybe a sea doo, etc... We have lots of wind around here, and tall 5th wheels get blown over quite a bit. On a side note, what's the best way to get dead meat out of a freezer that's lost power for 6 months??? I'm heading over to our local volunteer fire department to get a full-face coverage breathing respirator, and going in with a big trash bag and gloves and throwing all that junk in as fast as I can, then getting it out of the RV. I'll see if it works for putrification. Ah, used RV's. So much fun! Used equipment is the only way I can afford to play the game though. If I survive, I should have a pretty good rig. More later. All the Best!
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03-16-2016, 12:32 AM
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Junior Member
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You guys probably haul a few extra thousand pounds in that rear seat area on the crew cab. I'm just a lowly two door. ; > )
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