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Old 10-04-2013, 09:51 PM   #1
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Hello Bus Conversion Folks,

Just a query, because I can't find any details on my own...
I was enjoying a TV show named something like Celebrity Motor Homes - like to dream - and heard in 2 different episodes that some rigs are being sold with a 52' length.

Looking at the Prevost and Setra websites, I see no models over 45'

And, I thought the federal highway single vehicle max length was 45'

Is there some exception? Is it a special deal for commercial rigs driven by professional drivers? Or do you think these owners were just mistaken?

Thanks and safe travels
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No bus is longer than 45 feet unless articulated. There are some home built conversions of articulated transit buses around. Definitely an acquired taste.
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Actually, there are some Newells that are 48' long. You don't realize it until they're parked next to a "standard" 45'. If you buy one, they apparently make you sign off that they aren't legal in every (any?) state.
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Federal law limits school buses to 40 ft. Longest bus I've seen is the 1984 Neoplan double deckers built for NASA. They were 49 ft long with two steer axles and two drive axles. 1984 Neoplan Double Decker 1046 - VIP's / Entertainers, Limos & Limo Buses - Buses for Sale
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I was doubting the post about 48' Newell's, so I did a search, and low and behold there I found a Prevost too!

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seems that the longer coaches are made for Canada / mexico () and as stated above, not for USA drivers. But I am guessing if I ever purchased one that was 47-48', a few tickets would just be part of the expectation?
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I was doubting the post about 48' Newell's, so I did a search, and low and behold there I found a Prevost too!

48 Ft Prevost Luxury RV Rental | RV Rental Austin Texas
That link isn't working. I checked Prevost's and Newell's site. Both list 45 feet as their longest units. FWIW, I was on Prevost's North American site.
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Here's a new 52-footer. I think this was on the show Epic RV.

http://www.powerhousecoach.com/coaches1.html
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Here's a new 52-footer. I think this was on the show Epic RV.

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Thanks!...
I knew I heard it right...makes me wonder how the 45' rule would even get enforced.

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I'm pretty sure that "48 foot Prevost" listing is a typo or wishful thinking by the RV rental agency. Federal law limits the length of non-articulated bus type vehicles on US highways to 45' and all states accept that limit as a condition of receiving federal highway funds. So while you might be able to buy a longer rig, good luck registering or insuring it in the US. If you get it insured, I would be very concerned about the insurance company denying coverage for an accident once it discovers the vehicle is not street legal.

Does anyone really need more than 45' anyway???
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Thanks!...
I knew I heard it right...makes me wonder how the 45' rule would even get enforced.

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Maybe the key is "bus type" vehicles limited to 45'?? These are not "bus type" IMHO.
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From the Federal Highway Administration:
Federal Size Regulations for Commercial Motor Vehicles - FHWA

"Recreational vehicles are not CMVs (Commercial Motor Vehicle) subject to Federal size regulations."

I guess we're only limited by the state's length limits? I drove a converted 'long' school bus (82 passenger) all over the country and Canada many years ago, there were places that it was a real issue, especially with the 20' canoe trailer on the back. I bought the shortest DP I could find and have plenty of room for the two of us, not looking to go long anytime soon.
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Thanks!...
I knew I heard it right...makes me wonder how the 45' rule would even get enforced.

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Pretty much, enforcement (citation issued) would only occur after an accident involving the over limit RV. I know I would not go around measuring trucks and trailers, but states do have divisions who selectively enforce weights and standards .
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I'm pretty sure that "48 foot Prevost" listing is a typo or wishful thinking by the RV rental agency. Federal law limits the length of non-articulated bus type vehicles on US highways to 45' and all states accept that limit as a condition of receiving federal highway funds. So while you might be able to buy a longer rig, good luck registering or insuring it in the US. If you get it insured, I would be very concerned about the insurance company denying coverage for an accident once it discovers the vehicle is not street legal.

Does anyone really need more than 45' anyway???
Well, yes...The 2 "customers" I saw on TV talking about their 52' Bus Conversions were professional touring rock/country bands (sorry I can't remember the group names) who lived in their buses for much of the year and had professional drivers.

An internet search found that "Los Lonely Boys" from San Angelo TX, were interviewed on their 52' bus:
Los Lonely Boys

I bet it's a commercial-only exclusion thing...and I am sure the Hemphill Bros. are involved, I just can't find any specific info about it.
Hemphill Brothers

Oh well...just dreaming.
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