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Old 07-27-2018, 07:26 AM   #57
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I just looked a used Newell Coaches 2010 to 2012 with under 50k on the odometers and they are priced in the 500k range on RV Trader for sale by owner section.

No doubt a Newell is a fantastic, very well built coach but a 700k hit in 7 years, wow! I guess if you are a billionaire and have money to flush down the toilet then ok. Even at 500k considering it will not fit most places we take our already too big 35 foot class A, 500k is a crazy number.
I love RV's and we use ours, (2, 10,000 mile cross country trips) and use at least 10 time a year. To think I was felling bad about loosing 60k on our Winnebago if we sold it today. But we will keep our money in stock and real estate where it at least there is a chance it will grow. Wining the lottery and buying 2 million dollar coaches is a fun dream I will admit!
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Old 07-27-2018, 08:34 AM   #58
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In order to get that spacious interior, something has to give, and that is the storage space under. If you are young, it is tolerable to crouch down and duck your head, but I can tell you that being 6'5", this is decidedly NOT fun.
I'm not sure I agree with your first sentence. Basement storage was a top priority for us, so I measured a lot of them. The only setup with more basement was Prevost H3-45.

Now, ducking down to access with slides out... sure. But that's an issue on any coach with slides that are tall enough to walk in.

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If you study the sink carefully, there is not an inch more counter space than any other coach, so this is one of the coaches where one eats in restaurants.
Every Newell is custom, and there are a lot of starting-point layouts they design from. There are some with a lot of countertop, and there are some where it is pretty broken up or there is not as much usable surface. You can find one with whatever kitchen size you want, within reason.

I can tell you that for our full-time family, we do a lot of boondocking, and we cook in our kitchen pretty much every day. (And we also love restaurants!)

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I'm not saying that my coach is perfect, but I paid significantly less and have a very equally nice coach. All that glitters is not gold.
Country Coach made some great machines, and there's no question one gets good value for money with them. At the same time, there are some objective, substantial differences between them and Newell coaches. You do in fact get what you pay for.
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Old 07-27-2018, 10:55 AM   #59
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I have a 2009 Newell, got it about 5 months ago. I don't have a long experience with other coaches, I just know I love this one!

- Despite the age & 110,000 miles all the doors and cupboards close like they are new, pretty impressive considering some of the cupboards have curved doors.

At the end of the day its personal choice though. We flew to California, Arizona, Louisiana, Texas, and Florida looking at Foretravel and Newell coaches before finding the one. It's the downside of customer coaches. Would love to have the $2M spare in this lifetime so we can customize our own new coach.
We love Newells and came close to buying a used one. But we got nervous when we heard regular maintenance costs can be $5,000/year! Is that really true?
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If you are worried about spending $5,000/yr for maintenance, a Newell is not for you. Like the old yacht brokers used to say, "If you have to ask the price, you can't afford it."
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I just looked a used Newell Coaches 2010 to 2012 with under 50k on the odometers and they are priced in the 500k range on RV Trader for sale by owner section.

No doubt a Newell is a fantastic, very well built coach but a 700k hit in 7 years, wow! I guess if you are a billionaire and have money to flush down the toilet then ok. Even at 500k considering it will not fit most places we take our already too big 35 foot class A, 500k is a crazy number.
I love RV's and we use ours, (2, 10,000 mile cross country trips) and use at least 10 time a year. To think I was felling bad about loosing 60k on our Winnebago if we sold it today. But we will keep our money in stock and real estate where it at least there is a chance it will grow. Wining the lottery and buying 2 million dollar coaches is a fun dream I will admit!


I agree... thatís what makes a entegra so economical...
You get high end feel with a lot of upgraded equipment with out breaking the bank... definitely the nicest coach for the money... Newell is a beautiful coach and if you can afford one then thatís great.. but for the masses entegra is the perfect medium point...
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Hands down I think for me Newell has the nicest interiors. I watch all the Marathon videos and most of there interiors are not to my liking. I have yet to see a prevo ordered with lithium and solar as I would, I'm a big fan of Millinum for there electronics.
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Am enjoying following this. As we are currently RV-less we have been looking at Entegra CornerStone and Newmar Essex and King Aire. I agree with several above that Newell is at the absolute top of it's class. The biggest deterrent to me is the Cat Engine and the ZF manu-matic tranny that are in the year range that we can afford. So glad they went to the Cummins ISX with the Allison. That being said I recently was made aware of the Foretravel and plan to check them out.
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The CAT engine seems to be considered pretty reliable. You should be able to find some with the Allison as well; both were used for many years.
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The CAT engine seems to be considered pretty reliable. You should be able to find some with the Allison as well; both were used for many years.
My understanding was that anything with the Cat also had the ZF. Is that not true?
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Later in life I discovered things like Haagen-Dazs. Also Ice Cream, but on a different level.

Since then Iíve learned my wife doesnít like the rich butter fat in Haagen-Dazs.

Proof that there will always be ample room in any given market for a vast array of options.

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My understanding was that anything with the Cat also had the ZF. Is that not true?
Right, that's not the case. Even the DD series 60 in the older ones was sometimes mated with the Allison.

I'm not sure the exact numbers, but my sense is that there are more CAT+Allison than CAT+ZF. No one really liked the ZF feel, I guess.
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I just looked a used Newell Coaches 2010 to 2012 with under 50k on the odometers and they are priced in the 500k range on RV Trader for sale by owner section.

No doubt a Newell is a fantastic, very well built coach but a 700k hit in 7 years, wow! I guess if you are a billionaire and have money to flush down the toilet then ok. Even at 500k considering it will not fit most places we take our already too big 35 foot class A, 500k is a crazy number.
I love RV's and we use ours, (2, 10,000 mile cross country trips) and use at least 10 time a year. To think I was felling bad about loosing 60k on our Winnebago if we sold it today. But we will keep our money in stock and real estate where it at least there is a chance it will grow. Wining the lottery and buying 2 million dollar coaches is a fun dream I will admit!
Instead of looking at the dollar loss/depreciation....
Look at the % rate instead..I believe you will discover that your Entegra has the same or even greater % depreciation factors..
It's all just a matter of scale of purchase
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I have seen some of the prices on the Newell used site and they seem rather stiff! has anyone dickered with them on a lower price or do they think it's a take it or leave it quote? just asking as we are considering the King Aire 2019
but just love Newell's.
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I have seen some of the prices on the Newell used site and they seem rather stiff! has anyone dickered with them on a lower price or do they think it's a take it or leave it quote? just asking as we are considering the King Aire 2019
but just love Newell's.
Yes, they are quite negotiable.
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