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Old 07-26-2017, 11:47 AM   #1
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Has anyone bought a new heavy truck (class 8) with 5th wheel and avoided FET? I have a Kenworth T680 spec'ed but the dealer can't figure out how to avoid FET and I'm not inclined to pay an extra 12%...And yes, it's going to be titled as an RV.

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Go over to the HDT site on Escapee's- RVnetwork.com [moderator edit]
I don't think anyone that has bought a new truck for RV hauler purpose has paid FET because we're not commercial.
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...that's what I keep telling the dealer but they can't seem to figure it out. I'll jump over there - thanks for the lead.
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Not supposed to need to pay FET if it's titled as RV
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I would ask on the Escapees HDT Forum. There are a couple of trucks that have been purchased new without FET. At one time, that was an absolute rule by the IRS that a new truck has FET tax. That was not the spirit of the Law as passed by Congress but the IRS interprets Laws as it sees fit. Perhaps the light of day has come to the IRS and not many truck dealers know about it.

The reason dealers are wary of not collecting FET is that they are responsible for it if the IRS deems it should have been collected. So I was surprised when the first brand new Volvo was purchased without FET for use as an RV, and then another.

Asking on the Escapees HDT Forum is a better chance to get an answer as HDTers tend to shun IRV2 as there was a time being an HDTer got you flamed on IRV2.
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This question was asked a while ago now so it may no longer be a issue but I will throw my 2 cents in. The only way I have found to avoid FET is to spec the truck to have a GVWR of 33K or under.

In the case of my Volvo currently on order I have a 12.5K front axle and a 20K rear suspension for a 32.5K GVWR. I have heard of others trying different things but how well those have worked is questionable and the methods difficult. A dealer does not care how you are going to register it. They only care about the law and being able to cover their buts with the Fed's.
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Under 33,000 GVWR is not subject to FET as a straight truck. A tractor is limited to 19,500 GVWR to not be subject to FET.

Many of the early converters got into trouble by ordering a straight truck (no hitch) and then adding the hitch during the conversion to RV Hauler. But any accessory added in the first six months can be taxed and included in the classification of the truck. I.E. putting a hitch on in the first six months drops the GVWR to 19,500 and makes the truck subject to FET. That put a lot of SportsChassis dealers out of business as when the IRS came a-calling, the dealer was subject to the tax if the dealer had not collected it from the buyer.

That is why most of the early HDT conversions were used trucks to avoid the FET.

And checking, apparently the IRS does not use the 6 month window on a new truck anymore. Only the secondary sale (used) is exempt.
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This question was asked a while ago now so it may no longer be a issue but I will throw my 2 cents in. The only way I have found to avoid FET is to spec the truck to have a GVWR of 33K or under.

In the case of my Volvo currently on order I have a 12.5K front axle and a 20K rear suspension for a 32.5K GVWR. I have heard of others trying different things but how well those have worked is questionable and the methods difficult. A dealer does not care how you are going to register it. They only care about the law and being able to cover their buts with the Fed's.

Hi ! Welcome to IRV2! We're sure glad you joined the gang!

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