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07-03-2007, 12:15 PM
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Well our coach had its second year birthday last month and I am wondering if there is any pm I should be doing. So far, just oil changes and lubes, and the trans filter changed at 5k. We live in San Diego, so it is exposed to a mild climate. Wondering specifically about brake fluid, my GM service writter recommends flushing the brake fluid every two years due to moisture on my truck. Wondering if this is a good idea for the mh. All-in-all, we have had zero issues with the chassis, except the instument panel change and the fuel rail dampner. Thinking about it, my 04 Jeep has not gone to the shop once, nor has my 05 3/4 ton GMC truck. I digress... Its the Fourth, feeling patriotic.
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07-03-2007, 12:15 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Well our coach had its second year birthday last month and I am wondering if there is any pm I should be doing. So far, just oil changes and lubes, and the trans filter changed at 5k. We live in San Diego, so it is exposed to a mild climate. Wondering specifically about brake fluid, my GM service writter recommends flushing the brake fluid every two years due to moisture on my truck. Wondering if this is a good idea for the mh. All-in-all, we have had zero issues with the chassis, except the instument panel change and the fuel rail dampner. Thinking about it, my 04 Jeep has not gone to the shop once, nor has my 05 3/4 ton GMC truck. I digress... Its the Fourth, feeling patriotic.
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07-03-2007, 12:42 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner National RV Owners Club
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surfride, I also changed out the trans fluid from the Transyd/DextronII mix it came with, to all Transyd synthetic. It requires two changes (3 gals. per change & trans. filter) per Allison. This will give it a 100,000 mile service and will run cooler. Allison does NOT recommend power flush for change out. You'll need a funnel with a 3' long clear hose to fill fluid.
Ed
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2000 Jeep Wrangler, Brake Buddy
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07-03-2007, 04:04 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jeepster47:
Allison does NOT recommend power flush for change out. You'll need a funnel with a 3' long clear hose to fill fluid. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Ed, My fluid was power flushed by Atlantic Detroit Diesel Allison in New England. Today I also picked up on a conversation that Terry Labonte Chevrolet in Greensboro which is an Allison Certified shop has a power flushing machine. A person that I was speaking with has an appointment on Thursday to have the service accomplished. I hope he calls me and lets me know how that worked out.
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07-03-2007, 07:06 PM
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DriVer, you're correct that Allison approved service centers will power flush their trannys. Just make sure the system is approved by Allison. Some flushing systems use solvents which can harm the seals and interior.
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07-04-2007, 05:35 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jeepster47:
Some flushing systems use solvents which can harm the seals and interior. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I too would be alarmed if a service center used solvents to clean anything out of a Allison transmission. I am only speaking about a direct fluid replacement machine. What comes out of one end is replaced by fluid coming in the other.
What I'm not totally clear about is whether the attachment points constitute a closed loop assuring a complete exchange. Having accomplished a "power flush" I was assured that my concentration of Transynd is up to acceptable levels most likely exceeding 90% content.
Recapping a bit of previous history on my transmission, I had accomplished a single manual dump and refill using ~ 10.3 quarts Amsoil Torque Shift fluid. I have changed the spin on filter 3 times in 60,000 miles but that was 1 at 5K miles and 2 more with the transmission fluid changes.
In my opinion my synthetic fluid concentration should be upward of 97%. This percentage is well within acceptable limits offering all the benefits detailed in Allison's extended maintenance schedule. I'm not so much worried about a warranty. I think this Allison tranny is going to run for a good long time trouble free.
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F&R Track Bars, Safety+ , Ultrapower, Allison UP Grade Brake, S&B CAI, Taylor Extremes, SGII-X Gauge
TST 507, Blue Ox, SMI, Koni FSD, CrossFire
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07-04-2007, 05:52 AM
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Florida Detroit Diesel-Allison in Ocala power flushed my 2100 16 months ago. Since I was less than one year old and had Dexron in my Allison they extended my warranty. I did ask them about the power flush and their reply was they were an authorized Allison service center. This was close to my 5000 miles service so they replaced the filter also.
-Tom
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07-04-2007, 06:03 AM
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Happy 4th.
I'm due the tranny fluid change and past due the program correction to fix the 4th-3rd downshift problem. Can anyone suggest the best Allison shop in the Abq,NM area?
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07-04-2007, 06:27 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eandy:
Can anyone suggest the best Allison shop in the Abq,NM area? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>eandy,
Unknown however here is a list:
Roberts Truck Center
Allison Dealer
1623 Aspen Avenue N.W.
Albuquerque, NM 87104
Phone: 505-243-7883
Fax: 505-242-6233
OEM: International Offers genuine Allison ReTran® factory rebuilt transmissions for AT500, 1000, 2000, 3000 and 4000 series on highway transmissions
Sells genuine Allison replacement parts for 1000, AT500, 2000, 3000 and 4000 series on highway transmissions
Is authorized to provide warranty repairs as a maintenance outlet for 1000, AT500, 2000, 3000 and 4000 series on highway transmissions
1.5 Miles
2 Big West Truck Sales & Service, LLC
Allison Dealer
505 Menaul N.W.
Albuquerque, NM 87107
Phone: 505-345-6366
Fax: 505-345-8255
OEM: Hino, Isuzu, UD
Offers genuine Allison ReTran® factory rebuilt transmissions for 1000, AT500, 2000, 3000 and 4000 series on highway transmissions
Sells genuine Allison replacement parts for 1000, AT500, 2000, 3000 and 4000 series on highway transmissions
Is authorized to provide warranty repairs as a maintenance outlet for 1000, AT500, 2000, 3000 and 4000 series on highway transmissions
1.9 Miles
3 Stewart & Stevenson Power, Inc.
Allison Distributor Branch
2929 Vassar Drive N.E.
Albuquerque, NM 87107
Phone: 505-881-3511
Fax: 505-875-1846
Will assist you in your purchase of a new 1000, AT500, 2000, HT700, MT600, 3000 or 4000 series on highway transmission; or B 300, B 400 or B 500 coach transmission; or CL(B)T 700, 5000, 6000, 8000 or 9000 series off highway transmission
Offers genuine Allison ReTran® factory rebuilt transmissions for 1000, AT500, 2000, 3000 and MT600 series on highway transmissions
Sells genuine Allison replacement parts for 1000, AT500, HT700, 2000, 3000, MT600 and 4000 series on highway transmissions; and B 300, B 400 and B 500 coach transmissions; and CL(B)T 700, 5000, 6000, 8000 and 9000 series off highway transmissions
Is authorized to provide warranty repairs as a maintenance outlet for 1000, AT500, 2000, HT700, 3000, MT600 and 4000 series on highway transmissions; and B 300, B 400 and B 500 coach transmissions; and CL(B)T 700, 5000, 6000, 8000 and 9000 series off highway transmissions
Is authorized to perform warranty repairs as an overhaul outlet for 1000, AT500, HT700, 2000, 3000, MT600 and 4000 series on highway transmissions; and B 300, B 400 and B 500 coach transmissions; and CL(B)T 700, 5000, 6000, 8000 and 9000 series off highway transmissions
2.8 Miles
It would seem that Stewart & Stevenson Power, Inc. is the largest center that offers the most services in comparison to the other service centers in the area.
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TST 507, Blue Ox, SMI, Koni FSD, CrossFire
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07-04-2007, 06:57 AM
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Thank you Driver. Perfect
I'm remembering now, I changed fluid and filter. Got an Allison brand filter at Napa Parts at a good price. I thought tho 12k miles was needed to switch to syn?
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07-04-2007, 09:09 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eandy:
I thought tho 12k miles was needed to switch to syn? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>eandy; Engine "only". The sooner you can get your transmission on synthetic fluids, the sooner you can cross off
Allison transmission from the "Worry List"!
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F&R Track Bars, Safety+ , Ultrapower, Allison UP Grade Brake, S&B CAI, Taylor Extremes, SGII-X Gauge
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07-04-2007, 09:52 AM
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I am a little confused. My chassis is an 05, built in Sep04 I believe. What trans fluid do I have? Isn't this already rated for 100,000 miles? What should I expect to pay to have an Allison shop do the change?
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07-04-2007, 10:09 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by surfride:
I am a little confused. My chassis is an 05, built in Sep04 I believe. What trans fluid do I have? Isn't this already rated for 100,000 miles? What should I expect to pay to have an Allison shop do the change? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>surfride, I believe that chassis made after April 1st 2005 or thereabouts are Transynd filled.
If you go to Allison they will be able to tell which fluid is in your transmission.
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F&R Track Bars, Safety+ , Ultrapower, Allison UP Grade Brake, S&B CAI, Taylor Extremes, SGII-X Gauge
TST 507, Blue Ox, SMI, Koni FSD, CrossFire
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07-04-2007, 12:56 PM
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surfride,
When your Allison tranny was delivered to Workhorse it was filled with about 50% Transynd fluid. Workhorse then added the remaining fluid. Until Janurary 2005, Allison did not require chassis manufactures to add Transynd synthetic fluid, thus opted to fill with Dextron II (compatable and cheaper). To check if you have ALL Transynd fluid call Workhorse (1-877-946-7731). Through the Vin No. they can tell which fluid was added.
Ed
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2000 Jeep Wrangler, Brake Buddy
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