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goffrobert · 09-19-2018, 05:42 PM

Anyone know the UVW of a 2004 Workhorse W22 chassis out the factory door? Trying to figure out why my front GAWR is 7800 # RF 3800 Lf 4000 with little added extra in coach and basement compartments. Believe this is one of tthe reasons for rough ride .

Skip426 · 09-19-2018, 05:57 PM

B-in-L had a 05, Tiffin 35' on a W-22 and had to choose between filling the fuel tank and carrying a little water to flush to toilet if necessary ; and that was to keep the rear axle at it's limit. He was always at the limit on the front axle; and it did ride rough.

What's the advertised CCC of your unit ? His was just over 1,100 #. I looked at a 37' Tiffin on a W-22 and it's CCC was under 900# I walked away.

RV manufacturers overloading the gas chassis was the reason they introduced the , W-24 , and the newer Ford chassis have a 26,000# GVWR, and the manufacturers push those to the limit too.

edgray · 09-19-2018, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by goffrobert

Anyone know the UVW of a 2004 Workhorse W22 chassis out the factory door? Trying to figure out why my front GAWR is 7800 # RF 3800 Lf 4000 with little added extra in coach and basement compartments. Believe this is one of tthe reasons for rough ride .

I don't know where you got the idea that your front axle GAWR is 7800, but if you will post ONLY the last eight digits of the chassis vin #, I will get the build sheet for you. In addition to ratings, most of them show the actual weight of the bare chassis "out the door".

CJ7365 · 09-19-2018, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by goffrobert

Anyone know the UVW of a 2004 Workhorse W22 chassis out the factory door? Trying to figure out why my front GAWR is 7800 # RF 3800 Lf 4000 with little added extra in coach and basement compartments. Believe this is one of tthe reasons for rough ride .

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Originally Posted by edgray

I don't know where you got the idea that your front axle GAWR is 7800, but if you will post ONLY the last eight digits of the chassis vin #, I will get the build sheet for you. In addition to ratings, most of them show the actual weight of the bare chassis "out the door".

I think the OP is using the wrong terminology as he listed left and right side weights, i believe he is stating that his front axle weighs 7800 LBS and NOT the GAWR.

For the OP
GAWR=gross axle weight rating, the amount it can carry

I have a W22 and my front axle weight is 7180LB. your front axle weight is about 600 pounds over mine.

OP I would get it re weighed, unless you have alot of "heavy crap" in your front bays.

Where did you get it weighed at?

edgray · 09-19-2018, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CJ7365

I think the OP is using the wrong terminology as he listed left and right side weights, i believe he is stating that his front axle weighs 7800 LBS and NOT the GAWR.

For the OP
GAWR=gross axle weight rating, the amount it can carry

I have a W22 and my front axle weight is 7180LBS which is about 600 pounds over mine.

OP I would get it re weighed, unless you have alot of "heavy crap" in your front bays.

Where did you get it weighed at?

CJ7365:
Yes I see that now, and agree the OP talking about actual weights and not axle ratings. BUT, I'm GUESSING he has an 8,000 pound rated axle, so he isn't overloaded.

Regarding your comment I put in red, the build sheet I sent you a while back shows you have a 8,000 pound front axle rating AND 8,000 front suspension rating, so I'm confused how you are "over".

To the OP: if your original question was about the weight of the bare chassis as driven off the assembly line, most of the W-22 build sheets I see are in the neighborhood of 6,600 pounds.

CJ7365 · 09-19-2018, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by edgray

CJ7365:
Yes I see that now, and agree the OP talking about actual weights and not axle ratings. BUT, I'm GUESSING he has an 8,000 pound rated axle, so he isn't overloaded.

Regarding your comment I put in red, the build sheet I sent you a while back shows you have a 8,000 pound front axle rating AND 8,000 front suspension rating, so I'm confused how you are "over".

To the OP: if your original question was about the weight of the bare chassis as driven off the assembly line, most of the W-22 build sheets I see are in the neighborhood of 6,600 pounds.

Sorry for the confusion, i was stating that the OPs front axle is 600lbs over than mine, trying to give the OP another front axle weight to compare to, should of been more clearer as my fingers could not keep up with my mind.

I am 820LBS below my max, and thanks again for the build sheet, i actually looked at it again because of this thread

I was surprised i could actually go back and edit my post which i did to make if more clear, hope it's more clear now.

goffrobert · 09-20-2018, 06:13 AM

The max GAWR is 8000# I weighed it at 7800# at Henderson's in Or. last summer .
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goffrobert · 09-20-2018, 06:24 AM

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goffrobert · 09-20-2018, 06:40 AM

I am talking about actual weights.The GAWR is 8000. I am concerned about the actual weight is only 200# off GAWR.The front half of coach has little added weight in the coach and the basements.My GB cruise master 3625DS has a 18800 dry weight according to spec sheet. I am looking for weight of chassis only before builder's coach gets it.

CJ7365 · 09-20-2018, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by goffrobert

I am talking about actual weights.The GAWR is 8000. I am concerned about the actual weight is only 200# off GAWR.The front half of coach has little added weight in the coach and the basements.My GB cruise master 3625DS has a 18800 dry weight according to spec sheet. I am looking for weight of chassis only before builder's coach gets it.

From my build sheet that Ed sent me, the shipping weight for my W22 was 6610lbs

Front axle 3580
Rear axle 3030

edgray · 09-20-2018, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by goffrobert

I am talking about actual weights.The GAWR is 8000. I am concerned about the actual weight is only 200# off GAWR.The front half of coach has little added weight in the coach and the basements.My GB cruise master 3625DS has a 18800 dry weight according to spec sheet. I am looking for weight of chassis only before builder's coach gets it.

Robert:
The build sheet for your chassis shows the front ship weight as 3,580.06 lbs. and the rear ship weight as 3,036.66 lbs. for a total bare chassis shipping weight of 6,616.72 pounds. Your front axle rating and the front suspension rating are both listed as 8,000 lbs.

If you want the entire build sheet which also shows the completed status of all three recalls, send me an email to edgray1@gmail.com so I can attach it to a reply. It won't display correctly here.

I'm having trouble with my internet connection due to construction damage, so my reply MAY be delayed.

goffrobert · 09-21-2018, 06:13 AM

Thanks for info. Will email for spec sheet. Thanks again.

goffrobert · 09-22-2018, 06:47 AM

Is there a spec sheet after the Builder installs the coach on the chassis? Looking for the front axle weight and rear axle weight after coach install. Believe my front axle is already heavy upfront even though it may be a couple hundred pounds under GAWR.

Mudfrog · 09-22-2018, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by goffrobert

Is there a spec sheet after the Builder installs the coach on the chassis? Looking for the front axle weight and rear axle weight after coach install. Believe my front axle is already heavy upfront even though it may be a couple hundred pounds under GAWR.

There should be a "weight information" sheet displayed somewhere in the coach that gives the UVW. That sheet is in the closet on our rig but it could be in another somewhat hidden place on yours. Unfortunately, the sheet doesn't give front and rear weights so it's not going to help answer your specific questions.

You might keep in mind that loading more weight behind the rear axle can help take some of the load off the front end. Just don't go to overboard and end up overloading the rear.