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06-14-2007, 04:43 AM
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I installed the rear axle Air Lift system on my W22 35 ft Winnebago Sightseer to improve the ride.
After speaking with a Air Lift tech, I realized I had the air pressure set too low. With 85 psi the bumps are much softer and the ride is quieter too. The wife is happier and grumbles less about the ride now.
Maybe the Monroes will be replaced next as I sense the front units are not as effective when first new.
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06-14-2007, 04:43 AM
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I installed the rear axle Air Lift system on my W22 35 ft Winnebago Sightseer to improve the ride.
After speaking with a Air Lift tech, I realized I had the air pressure set too low. With 85 psi the bumps are much softer and the ride is quieter too. The wife is happier and grumbles less about the ride now.
Maybe the Monroes will be replaced next as I sense the front units are not as effective when first new.
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06-14-2007, 06:21 AM
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I am sorry but what is an Air Lift system? Is it a complete suspension or like a FireStone system?
Do you have photos?
Thanks.
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06-14-2007, 08:24 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JCM:
I am sorry but what is an Air Lift system? Is it a complete suspension or like a FireStone system?
Do you have photos?
Thanks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The Air Lift System is a add-on product to improve the ride and correct load leveling. There are kits for the front and rear axles. Yes they are similar to the Firestone Ride-Rite systems.
Click HERE for specific information.
Note our sponsor RVUpgrades.com sells them at the best lowest price.
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06-14-2007, 08:28 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FLYTYER:
Maybe the Monroes will be replaced next as I sense the front units are not as effective when first new. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>When my 4 Monroe RV Magnums disappeared I went with the Koni FSD shocks.
G-R-E-A-T !! Would be one word that Tony the Tiger would use to describe the performance of the FSDs.
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06-14-2007, 03:34 PM
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My Triple E - 35 foot came with the Firestone bags on the rear and later I added the guage and small pump at the dash so I can controll the pressure while driving. I have never had the suspension problems that others talk about. I believe the bags act as like track bar on the rear axle. I have found that a change as little as 5 lbs will affect the way the coach handles.
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06-16-2007, 03:09 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JCM:
My Triple E - 35 foot came with the Firestone bags on the rear and later I added the guage and small pump at the dash so I can controll the pressure while driving. I have never had the suspension problems that others talk about. I believe the bags act as like track bar on the rear axle. I have found that a change as little as 5 lbs will affect the way the coach handles. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
What pressure do you usually use?
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06-16-2007, 06:02 AM
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Lighty loaded - 65lbs. Then adjust up to 90LBS if full of gas and water..
I somtimes lower the left bag by 5 lbs if there is a very high crown on the road. It eases the counter steering.
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06-16-2007, 06:16 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JCM:
I have never had the suspension problems that others talk about. I believe the bags act as like track bar on the rear axle. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>The fact that you do not have any problems with your suspension is consistent with a number of owners who also report great stability and no problems.
On the other hand the premise that an air bag system will function as or substitute for a panhard bar is a little too optimistic in my opinion.
Air bags have been used as OEM installed devices from manufacturers like Rexhall for instance. These units assist in leveling the coach as you have already experienced.
We want to be sure that folks don't interpret the use of air bags and a device which it is not. Air bags do not add any additional carrying capacity and certainly do not contribute any significant attenuation toward controlling yaw as they act only in the vertical axis on the chassis.
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06-17-2007, 06:34 AM
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I agree that they don't allow you to carry excess axle weight but they do allow a "smoother" ride, stop the "soft" rear end feeling when you are full of gas etc. and allow you to lift the rear a little shifting weight to the front axle.
I do think that they help with tail wagging the dog syndrome as they are attached to the axle and the frame and when blown up - make a firmer attachment between the two. Not as good as a trac bar but they still make quite a difference.
Just what I have found on my rig. I wouldn't be without them.
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06-17-2007, 08:32 AM
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I think you could feel some difference in the sway over the rear axle, but they won't exert any force in any other axis. They could act like a sway bar, but not a track bar. I have them on my chassis, and they help the ride when pulling a trailer.
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