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Old 08-05-2019, 05:44 AM   #1
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Any thoughts on Workhorse chassis?

trading a tried a true 1999 Pace arrow on a F53 chassis for a 2009 Pace arrow on a workhorse chassis, W24 per vin#, with a 8.1 motor. My last non ford was in 1976, any thoughts, tips or tricks would greatly appreciated.
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IMHO I believe the W24 was the best chassis they built by far better than the early F53. The 8.1 has a lot of low end torque and along with the six speed Allison transmission makes a great combination. I have a 04 W22 chassis and driving on the highway at 2300 RPM(about 65MPH) pulling a car behind me I average just below 8MPG. Mine drives good and I have had no problems with the chassis in 55K miles. I have changed the tires and brakes.


PS; The W24 has a better brake system than the W22.
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Our 2006 Winnebago Adventurer 38J was on the W24 chassis and it would do an great job. It just didn't meet our full time needs. I've attached a WH Chassis Guide for your information.

One nice piece of news is that the W24 didn't have the Bendix brake problems of the other chassis.
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thank you. taking delivery either today or tomorrow, plan to change all fluids and spark plugs possible wires also. at 24,000 miles may not need plugs and wires but I have no back ground maintenance and worried about the years. any other thoughts on items to check/replace?
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thank you. taking delivery either today or tomorrow, plan to change all fluids and spark plugs possible wires also. at 24,000 miles may not need plugs and wires but I have no back ground maintenance and worried about the years. any other thoughts on items to check/replace?
One thing that you might check is to see if it has some form of "ram air" scoops in the front grill to force some cooler air back over the plugs. Winnebago go fancy with their front grills like mine and reduced the opening for air to come through. That caused a lack of air flow back to the rear plugs and there were many reports of burnt/singed wire plugs. Misfiring was the first symptom. I don't recall the proper name of the kits but they were basically a pair of small scoops with some heat resistant tube (like a dryer vent tube but much more heat resistant) to direct air to the back of the block.
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thanks, tips like this are great. I have found every brand/model has its own quirks and the learning curve can be a killer.
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We had an '05 Winnebago Suncruiser 37B that we ran for 63,000 miles, with no repairs only lubes and oil changes.
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thank you. taking delivery either today or tomorrow, plan to change all fluids and spark plugs possible wires also. at 24,000 miles may not need plugs and wires but I have no back ground maintenance and worried about the years. any other thoughts on items to check/replace?
CONGRATS on your purchase. I agree with the other posters, above. I suggest you consider NOT changing the ATF. WCC put TranSynd fluid in that 6 speed Allison, and that stuff is around $50.00/gallon. Lab analysis is much cheaper-see the Allison forum for lots of info on that-and will likely prove the ATF is still good. If you want some peace of mind, replace the spin-on filter-part number 29539579-which cost about 10 bucks at an Allison distributor or about 25 bucks at a Chevy dealer. Be sure to reuse the washer-like magnet that should be stuck on top of the old filter. Regarding the plugs and wires, I wouldn't bother with those either unless you experience mis-fires because I'm a "don't fix what isn't broke" guy.
You will finds LOTS of other info and opinions over in the Workhorse chassis forum here on iRV2. http://www.irv2.com/forums/f22/
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...I've attached a WH Chassis Guide for your information. ....
I THOUGHT I attached that guide but it is too big.

Here is a Link To It
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never had a trans with a spin on filter before, I have a lot to learn. thanks for the heads up on the ATF, will have it checked in case previous order did something dumb. will follow up with both the Allison and WCC forums.
keep the thoughts coming this ford guy has a lot to learn. planning a couple 50 mile overnighters then in Sept a 1500 mile 12 day back home trip.
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workhorse club

There is a workhorse club under FMCA, great resource. WCMC has web site www.workhorseclub.com.
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I have an 04 W22 and just changed the transmission fluid at 40,600 miles. My transmission doesn't call for Transynd so I used Valvoline Maxlife.

From my research it is fully compatible for my 5 speed but do your own research. I believe the Transynd is a Castrol product meeting Alisons TES-295 Spec. If you collect the old transmission fluid and measure it carefully you can replace it with a like amount (add a little to compensate for the filter) and the amount added will be very close to the amount removed.

Harbor Freight sells a hand operated fluid transfer pump that works well for adding fluid.

One thing I did was pour off a little fluid into a clear plastic water bottle so that I could do a visual inspection for color and clarity. Mine was a little brown and cloudy so changing it was the right thing to do.

The filter I bought came with a new magnet. Cleaning the old magnet with a paper towel reveals the ferrous sludge that these magnets are designed to intercept. If you do reuse the magnet be sure and clean it well before replacing.

Changing the transmission fluid is a straight forward task and took me about 30 minutes.

Read the transmission manual carefully. It may or may not agree with the Workhouse manual as to what is severe service. One manual said that ATF should be changed at 50K miles but reading closer the Alison manual stated that the change should be at 25K (I think) if the transmission in used in a motorhome or if you pull a dinghy.

I like knowing my fluids are clean and fresh.
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I have an 04 W22 and just changed the transmission fluid at 40,600 miles. My transmission doesn't call for Transynd so I used Valvoline Maxlife.

From my research it is fully compatible for my 5 speed but do your own research. I believe the Transynd is a Castrol product meeting Alisons TES-295 Spec. If you collect the old transmission fluid and measure it carefully you can replace it with a like amount (add a little to compensate for the filter) and the amount added will be very close to the amount removed.

Harbor Freight sells a hand operated fluid transfer pump that works well for adding fluid.

One thing I did was pour off a little fluid into a clear plastic water bottle so that I could do a visual inspection for color and clarity. Mine was a little brown and cloudy so changing it was the right thing to do.

The filter I bought came with a new magnet. Cleaning the old magnet with a paper towel reveals the ferrous sludge that these magnets are designed to intercept. If you do reuse the magnet be sure and clean it well before replacing.

Changing the transmission fluid is a straight forward task and took me about 30 minutes.

Read the transmission manual carefully. It may or may not agree with the Workhouse manual as to what is severe service. One manual said that ATF should be changed at 50K miles but reading closer the Alison manual stated that the change should be at 25K (I think) if the transmission in used in a motorhome or if you pull a dinghy.

I like knowing my fluids are clean and fresh.
The only trouble with ou 2006 w24 was engine choking on water ingestion during heavy rain storms. Change air filter to K&N to prevent paper filter from falling apart..put 67000 miles on Bounder.with no break downs. Went by books maint.
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Feel free to search any of my posts about my 2008 Pace Arrow w24 P38 the biggest problem was the vapor lock problem with a simple fix.
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