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01-13-2010, 09:24 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
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Location: Conway, SC
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I agree with you George. Owners can expect to have collaterally damaged components replaced at the time of the campaign if they have been compromised by a seized caliper at no cost to the owner. I am sure that we will all keep an eye on that by asking our service center to retain the parts for customer inspection. By now everyone here knows what to look for. So IF you are a member here, that's one of the benefits.
All other parts are what they call, customer pay. It would be wonderful if Workhorse comes up with a game plan that will save us money on those replacement parts and labor.
Personally, I would want to drive away with totally brake new brake parts on all 4 wheels if I could afford to do so. Some folks are not going to be able to afford to do that but do the best you can. Its not as if we here don't know it's coming. A little financial planning now may help later on.
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01-13-2010, 09:39 AM
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#72
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Northwestern Montana
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Why would one want to replace perfectly good brake parts with many miles left on them? Warm fuzzy feeling can get downright expensive, and foolish in my opinion. I agree on repair of collateral damages to system.
Dieselclacker
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01-13-2010, 09:45 AM
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#73
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: South Jersey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DriVer
I agree with you George. Owners can expect to have collaterally damaged components replaced at the time of the campaign if they have been compromised by a seized caliper at no cost to the owner. I am sure that we will all keep an eye on that by asking our service center to retain the parts for customer inspection. By now everyone here knows what to look for. So IF you are a member here, that's one of the benefits.
All other parts are what they call, customer pay. It would be wonderful if Workhorse comes up with a game plan that will save us money on those replacement parts and labor.
Personally, I would want to drive away with totally brake new brake parts on all 4 wheels. Some folks are not going to be able to afford to do that but do the best you can. Its not as if we here don't know it's coming. A little financial planning now may help later on.
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One thing I would like to see is a modified standard billable repair time for the pads, sensors, fluid change, etc. that are changed while the calipers are replaced. The dis-assembly and assembly costs are already covered by WH, so changing out of other wheel parts that I want done at the same time,should be done for material cost and minimal labor charge.
George
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Mickleton, NJ
2006 Coachman Epic & 2013 Chevy Equinox Toad
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01-13-2010, 10:12 AM
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#74
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: South Jersey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dieselclacker
I agree on repair of collateral damages to system.
Dieselclacker
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Dieselclacker, do you think I could get new tires under the collateral damage category? When my caliper was hung up and the brake was dragging it put excess wear on my tires. LOL
George
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Mickleton, NJ
2006 Coachman Epic & 2013 Chevy Equinox Toad
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01-13-2010, 11:00 AM
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#75
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Moderator Emeritus
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Conway, SC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dieselclacker
Why would one want to replace perfectly good brake parts with many miles left on them? Warm fuzzy feeling can get downright expensive, and foolish in my opinion. I agree on repair of collateral damages to system.
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Dieselclacker, I agree with that assessment 100%! I have relatively all new brake components. At this time they are about 18 months old and aging. When it comes time for me to have the campaign accomplished, I'm going to get 4 kits and I'll be outta there! I spent the money before hand and I don't expect to spend it a second time just so that I can say I have brand new parts because all my parts are relatively new.
That said when an owner shows up to have the campaign completed do what you can NOW to save from having to repeat the process next year or later.
Folks should opt for resurfacing where practical. This will save money. I would also think that if the sensors are good, why not keep them. I would urge new hoses be installed and new brake pads if those need to come out of pocket.
If a rotor is ground, there will be expenses for seals, fluids and the such, that's all I would expect there for cost.
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01-13-2010, 11:23 AM
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#76
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Senior Member
Vintage RV Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: Orange County CA
Posts: 975
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dieselclacker
Why would one want to replace perfectly good brake parts with many miles left on them? Warm fuzzy feeling can get downright expensive, and foolish in my opinion. I agree on repair of collateral damages to system.
Dieselclacker
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I can't believe this has degenerated into another freakin' brake thread...
In any case, when/if it ever comes down to getting my calipers replaced under the recall, unless I have a LOT more miles (25K now) I would just keep my rotors and pads, there is nothing wrong with them, they are still in good condition and everything works fine.
Frankly I think half the problems out there are from brake over-use, particularly on heavier/larger units. My little 31W is 17,500 loaded, with a 26K GCWR (or thereabouts). And whatever I tow also has brakes. I don't let my brakes get overheated, I keep off them, use the grade brake, and go slow down grades.
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2005 Itasca Sunrise 31W - W20 and 8.1
2021 Chevy Spark Toad
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01-13-2010, 01:53 PM
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#77
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Moderator Emeritus
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
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Location: Conway, SC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CJBROWN
My little 31W is 17,500 loaded, with a 26K GCWR (or thereabouts).
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You should find a Ferrari name plate and not be afraid to use it!
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01-13-2010, 03:24 PM
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#78
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Senior Member
Nor'easters Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: MAINE, The way Life should be.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by George Z
One thing I would like to see is a modified standard billable repair time for the pads, sensors, fluid change, etc. that are changed while the calipers are replaced. The dis-assembly and assembly costs are already covered by WH, so changing out of other wheel parts that I want done at the same time,should be done for material cost and minimal labor charge.
George
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I might challenge this audiance to request this type of pricing structure before your repairs are completed and post the results on this forum as well as in the dealer satisfaction area for all to see. Lets work together with WH, the dealers and ourselves on this project. Many hands make for less work.
A proactive measure may also be if you think you know where you would be having this recall addressed, contact that dealer well in advance and suggest the same. A parts manager who can order extra inventory thru his stock order rather than a special order and a service manager who can plan his work load will save both you and them money. Come on WH owners lets make this recall work for us, not against us!!
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01-13-2010, 03:48 PM
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 1,083
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Originally Posted by bdaball
I might challenge this audiance to request this type of pricing structure before your repairs are completed and post the results on this forum as well as in the dealer satisfaction area for all to see. Lets work together with WH, the dealers and ourselves on this project. Many hands make for less work.
A proactive measure may also be if you think you know where you would be having this recall addressed, contact that dealer well in advance and suggest the same. A parts manager who can order extra inventory thru his stock order rather than a special order and a service manager who can plan his work load will save both you and them money. Come on WH owners lets make this recall work for us, not against us!!
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The proactive measure suggestion seems to be an excellent idea to me, and I will have a discussion with my service center about billing for additional work at the same time calipers are changed.
George
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Mickleton, NJ
2006 Coachman Epic & 2013 Chevy Equinox Toad
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01-13-2010, 05:24 PM
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#80
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2005
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When that tanker makes a drop at the station guess what enters the tank as the fuel runs out. Yup! Rainwater, snowmelt and everything else that gathers around the vent. And what falls into those underground tanks while the lid is off but the hose ain't on yet. Yup! Rainwater, snowmelt, mud,rags, sand. Same thing when the station owner sticks his tanks everyday. Yup! If it fits through the hole, it's been in a tank somewhere!!. How do I know? Well, I worked an Atlantic station as a kid. I burned millions of gallons of naval fuel. And I had my own little Gulf station for a time in Maine. So take care of your fuel filters, fellas. Good luck!!
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01-21-2010, 11:10 AM
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#81
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Junior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 17
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Workhorse Brake problems
My local dealer Carl Black Chevrolet has been great!!!!
HOWEVER, I think that Workhorse is taking way too long to get the recall # 50901-C completed. Afterall, they have known about it for more that three (3) years, according to my information.
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