Bosch Brake Problems on Motorhome

[CarlJudy]

Have a 2004 Winnebago Adventurer Motorhome on a Workhorse Chassis with 31,139 miles on it.

We traveled from Wachula, FL to Orlando, FL distance of 70 miles. When arriving at park at Orlando, smelled hot plastic. After registering and starting up motorhome again, ABS light was on and did not go out. Brakes were working fine. No drag while driving. No other indication of problem. Hub caps were NOT HOT. We contacted Lazy Days to make appt. to have checked. We also contacted a mechanic we no in VA who said it would be ok to drive to Lazy Days.

At Lazydays, when the service rep started the motorhome the ABS went out as it would normally. The technican did diagnostics that all 4 sensors had malfunctioned and the rotors and calipers had been subjected to an abnormal amount of heat. In his opinion everything, including all sensor had to be replaced.

We have an extended warranty sold to us by Lazydays when we purchased the coach, National Warranty of Florida. A day and half later when the insurance inspector did his assessment his determination was that only one sensor had malfunctioned, and at this point we don't know which one; that was the only wheel that they would pay for the caliper, rotor and sensor even though the other three appeared to be in the same condition as the one he determined in his mind was bad.

We appealed to Lazydays service asking them for support in trying to get more coverage from National Warranty of Florida. Lazydays agreed with the problems all workhorse owners are having (there were three (3) other coaches waiting have the same work done). THis condition has been brought to Workhorse's attention on many occasions. Workhorse does not seem inclined to try to remedy this situation.

Maybe it's time for a class action against Workhorse if for not other reason that we are all driving 20,000 to 40,000 lb vehicles and can we be assured they are always going to stop.

It is worth noting that we had plenty of pads left. It is also worth noting that we do not abuse our motorhome systems by hard driving, it does not sit in one place for long periods of time.

CarlJudy

[Fred and Bonnie]

Carl/Judy, search this site, LOTS of info on WCC brake problems.

Fred

[paz]

The first 2 topics in bold-face type at the top of the list of posts on the Workhorse Forum page ("NHTSA Action Number : EA07016; Regarding, Service Brakes Hydraulic" and "Bosch Pin Slide Disk Brakes") may relate directly to your problem.

[JeeperJohn]

Carl/Judy

Sorry that you have had to join our growing group of brake horror stories. Unfortunately, there is not much that we can do but sympathize with one another until and unless Workhorse and/or Bosch at least acknowledge that there is a problem and that the problem is not bad drivers; lack of maintenance; setting too long, etc., etc. If only they would be interested in finding a "fix" for our motorhomes to help us get back to enjoying our travels.

Please file a complaint with NHTSA.

[Richard 34A]

CarlJudy:

Thanks for posting your brake issue; there’s a lot you can read here in all the different brake threads, including a lot of suggestions on what may be the cause and preventative maintenance. Unfortunately, there is no definitive solution at this point and Workhorse has been reluctant to even admit there are any brakes issues to speak of.

Check out the complaints filed at the NHTSA website and you might want to take a few minutes and add yours to the growing list but for now, the realty is you’ll be in limbo to a clear solution, just like many of us here.

Keep in mind that this forum is sponsored by Workhorse, so you probably don't want to use the words 'class action' in any further posts... we can think it here but you can't actually say it here. Note that most of the brake threads get 'locked down' if much is said against Workhorse...

[Route 66]

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Keep in mind that this forum is sponsored by Workhorse, so you probably don't want to use the words 'class action' in any further posts... we can think it here but you can't actually say it here. Note that most of the brake threads get 'locked down' if much is said against Workhorse...

This is incorrect. As long as threads and posts conform to iRV2's RULES and TOS there is no problem.

Administration

[DriVer]

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Originally posted by CarlJudy: Maybe it's time for a class action against Workhorse if for not other reason that we are all driving 20,000 to 40,000 lb vehicles and can we be assured they are always going to stop.

Carl, If you are driving a Workhorse that weighs anywhere near 40,000 pounds you are going to be exceeding the GVWR and or the GCWR of the vehicle and as such you will be operating outside of the DOT limits certified for your vehicle.

If you have been following the threads you will see that our members have already stated that the NHTSA has already made a ruling in this case however it would appear that they are withholding the results of their investigation.

The way I see it at this time is that this case is totally in the government's court. Workhorse, Bosch and we the owners are standing by for a written decision.

If you are looking to pursue any type of class action, I think you need to look at NHTSA. That said, I don't think you can sue the government.

[BDJ]

I believe the NHTSA is legally bound (if not legally, procedurally) to withhold the information from the general public regarding their investigations until the results of their investigation are presented to the manufacturers and the manufacturers have been given time to review and respond to those results. That being said, I believe WH and Bosch were to be presented those results either this last week or next week. Once the NHTSA receives a response from WH and Bosch they should be able to close out the EA and make their findings public. The last time I talked to the NHTSA, which was about 3 weeks ago, they expected the EA to be closed out in February.

[jdsr]

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Originally posted by Route 66: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Keep in mind that this forum is sponsored by Workhorse, so you probably don't want to use the words 'class action' in any further posts... we can think it here but you can't actually say it here. Note that most of the brake threads get 'locked down' if much is said against Workhorse...

This is incorrect. As long as threads and posts conform to iRV2's RULES and TOS there is no problem.

Administration </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Well if that is true than open up the 108 page thread or I think its 36 now. IMO there wasnt any reason to close it. CARLJUDY, please report it to www.nhtsa.gov

["007"]

Let me be the first CarlJudy to welcome you to irv2 and the Workhorse forum.
As you can see by the previous posts you are not alone with your brake problem there has been much discussion by everyone with a WH chassis.
We are all waiting for the ruling from NHTSA and hopefully it will resolve this issue for all of us.
While we all wait, do enjoy the forums on irv2 and DO post often.

[CarlJudy]

Our Winnebago Adventurer Motorhome has a GVWR if 22,000 lbs.

carljudy

[DriVer]

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Originally posted by CarlJudy: Our Winnebago Adventurer Motorhome has a GVWR if 22,000 lbs.

CarlJudy, If that is the case then it would appear that you have a W22. The combined weight rating for your motorhome including a toad would be 26,000 pounds.

I would also like to take this opportunity to welcome you to iRV2.com, the best resource for anything about your Workhorse. Please come back to visit soon and please free to post often.

[skipwil]

WELCOME also:
have you gone to Workhorse.com to see if any of the recalls(campaigns) have been completed on your unit? might be a starting point for negotiating some consideration from w/h. all my calipers,pads and rotors were replaced at appx.4k mi's.;all under warranty.
good luck...

[ALAG321]

Any insight on when the NHTSA investigation will conclude?