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Old 11-15-2008, 12:29 PM   #1
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The link that DriVer has posted for the Bosch Pin Slide Disk Brakes .pdf manual is dead; where can I find this information? I looked around the Bosch website but didn't find it.

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Old 11-15-2008, 12:29 PM   #2
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The link that DriVer has posted for the Bosch Pin Slide Disk Brakes .pdf manual is dead; where can I find this information? I looked around the Bosch website but didn't find it.

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Old 11-15-2008, 12:48 PM   #3
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The link that DriVer has posted for the Bosch Pin Slide Disk Brakes .pdf manual is dead </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Richard: This happened before and Mike was able to get it going again. If he cannot, I have it saved and can attach it to an email-but, please be aware it is a huge file and will take time to send & receive.

Is there something specific you want researched?
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Old 11-15-2008, 12:52 PM   #4
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by edgray:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The link that DriVer has posted for the Bosch Pin Slide Disk Brakes .pdf manual is dead </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Richard: This happened before and Mike was able to get it going again. If he cannot, I have it saved and can attach it to an email-but, please be aware it is a huge file and will take time to send & receive.

Is there something specific you want researched?
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Thanks DGRAY;

Finally found by doing a Google:

http://rb-kwin.bosch.com/us/pool/usa...ide_Manual.pdf

(The link in DriVer's post is http://rb-kwin.bosch.com/pool/en/pdf...de_Manual.pdf) - Looks like the 'USA' is missing from the web address and 'EN' is no longer used...

Just want to learn more about the brake system and maintenance.
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Old 11-15-2008, 01:14 PM   #5
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I had edited that URL about a couple of months ago because it wasn't working. The last time I checked it was working.

I guess the IT guys at Bosch keep changing their on-line content locations.

It's working now!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Just want to learn more about the brake system and maintenance. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I believe that we all wanted to do that and discuss those options however that's been ruled out. I'm very disapppointed that I had to close a thread down because of all the "truth" that had to be shared when all people were looking for was little information.
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Old 11-15-2008, 02:07 PM   #6
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I've followed iRV2 for some time now but have not posted often, but I feel a need to chime in here. If you think you were disappointed by the closing of that thread think about all the other poeple that viewed or contributed to that thread. In the 50 hours that thread was open it had 75 posts and 1,997 views, probably a record for this forum. The previous thread on the brake problem has 734 posts and 37,468 views, an astounding amount that is found on few threads. To say this topic has the interest of many people that visit iRV2 is an understatement and to close the discussion of this very important topic in my opinion is VERY disappointing.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BDJ:
In the 50 hours that thread was open it had 75 posts and 1,997 views, probably a record for this forum. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Not a record at all. I'm not going to take any credit for the page views however there certainly is a fascination by all and it'll attract bees to honey when something is being written about Workhorse Brakes. I put up 18 posts in that thread so I do have a vested interest.

All one needs to do is put up another "Brake Problem" thread and it'll grow just as fast as any of the others. What is in common between "all" of those threads is that regardless of how it progresses we are not learning anything because the thread quickly starts heading in a direction of blame Workhorse/Bosch/NTHSA game.

I have done my best to contribute in a positive manner in these threads. There have been many inquiries about how to achieve a good working knowledge base regarding what a person can do in the interim. Owners are genuinely interested in pursuing workarounds and intermediate solutions because these issues are very expensive. I would as others would like to provide the best information that is available in order to help owners with these issues.

I have written until I wore off the letters on my keys that as soon as a resolution is in sight the forum members here are most likely going to be the very first owners to receive the news - "Informally." When this issue is put into a campaign every owner will be sent official notification in the mail. The best news I can provide at the moment is that Workhorse has acknowledged that owners are concerned about their brakes. We all heard this at the club rally and it was expressed that a resolution is shortly forthcoming. I do not have a definite timeline to offer anyone in this regard.

I offered to put up and support a "Brake Solutions" thread however that was not allowed to be put forward and I didn't want to have to put it up and defend it instead of contributing knowledge to it. I share in your concern and I am always available in PM if anyone would like to ask me a question about their brakes.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BDJ:
I've followed iRV2 for some time now but have not posted often, but I feel a need to chime in here. If you think you were disappointed by the closing of that thread think about all the other poeple that viewed or contributed to that thread. In the 50 hours that thread was open it had 75 posts and 1,997 views, probably a record for this forum. The previous thread on the brake problem has 734 posts and 37,468 views, an astounding amount that is found on few threads. To say this topic has the interest of many people that visit iRV2 is an understatement and to close the discussion of this very important topic in my opinion is VERY disappointing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You didn't specify the thread specifically; if you are referring to the 8 page Brake Problem thread, I agree with you. Since no one was attacking any one, it feels like censorship to close a thread because 'it's redudndant'. There are a ton of threads here that ask repetitive questions that end up with the same redudant answers. But yet, it's the brake-related threads that are always closed. And I've got to say outloud: 'why is that'? (Yes, one is still open.)

It's a heated issue, (no pun intended) with some people taking a strong stance on behalf of Workhorse, and people like me that feel Workhorse has done little, to nothing, at least at the consumer level. Yes, I'm sure that something is being done, but come on, after more than a year, Workhorse has not commited to anything in writing, except I note this has been added to the 2007 owner's manual: "Brake damage from improper use is not covered by Workhorse Custom Chassis warranty." Surely this means that if there is a problem and it ties into Workhorse and its suppliers, than it will BE covered...

I think as long as a thread doesn't get personal, let it run it's course. Anybody that isn't interested or has no vested interest (IE - their chassis isn't affected) in the threads subject matter doesn't have to follow it, simple as that... clearly, though, many members are in fact interested in these threads.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Richard 34A:
But yet, it's the brake-related threads that are always closed. And I've got to say outloud: 'why is that'? (Yes, one is still open.) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I'm sure if you took the time to look that there are more than one open.

All one needs to do is post a single thing in this thread and the matter will be brought to the forefront again. 734 posts and 37,468 page views.

I haven't seen other brake threads that I have closed, perhaps I missed it.

I forgot to add that there were 106,087 posts last month alone in this forum. We're #2!
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Richard 34A:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BDJ:
I've followed iRV2 for some time now but have not posted often, but I feel a need to chime in here. If you think you were disappointed by the closing of that thread think about all the other poeple that viewed or contributed to that thread. In the 50 hours that thread was open it had 75 posts and 1,997 views, probably a record for this forum. The previous thread on the brake problem has 734 posts and 37,468 views, an astounding amount that is found on few threads. To say this topic has the interest of many people that visit iRV2 is an understatement and to close the discussion of this very important topic in my opinion is VERY disappointing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You didn't specify the thread specifically; if you are referring to the 8 page Brake Problem thread, I agree with you. Since no one was attacking any one, it feels like censorship to close a thread because 'it's redudndant'. There are a ton of threads here that ask repetitive questions that end up with the same redudant answers. But yet, it's the brake-related threads that are always closed. And I've got to say outloud: 'why is that'? (Yes, one is still open.)

It's a heated issue, (no pun intended) with some people taking a strong stance on behalf of Workhorse, and people like me that feel Workhorse has done little, to nothing, at least at the consumer level. Yes, I'm sure that something is being done, but come on, after more than a year, Workhorse has not commited to anything in writing, except I note this has been added to the 2007 owner's manual: "Brake damage from improper use is not covered by Workhorse Custom Chassis warranty." Surely this means that if there is a problem and it ties into Workhorse and its suppliers, than it will BE covered...

I think as long as a thread doesn't get personal, let it run it's course. Anybody that isn't interested or has no vested interest (IE - their chassis isn't affected) in the threads subject matter doesn't have to follow it, simple as that... clearly, though, many members are in fact interested in these threads. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Richard, I totally agree. If someone doesnt have a brake problem or is tired of reading about it just skip it. Closing a thread that hasnt broken any rules serves only one purpose. Hopefully someone here will come up with a fix so that those of us that have had or is having a problem can start enjoying our mh. IMO Safe Travels
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Richard 34A:
But yet, it's the brake-related threads that are always closed. And I've got to say outloud: 'why is that'? (Yes, one is still open.) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Richard, I stopped counting at 12 threads in this forum and all of those brake threads are indeed still open.

Thank you for reflecting this in your comments. Your assertion that it's the brake threads that always get closed is not accurate.

On edit: Brake threads are indeed candidates that invoke heated debate and yes they may get closed. Hitchhiker closed one of these as far back as Feb 11th because it got totally out of hand.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DriVer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Richard 34A:
But yet, it's the brake-related threads that are always closed. And I've got to say outloud: 'why is that'? (Yes, one is still open.) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Richard, I stopped counting at 12 threads in this forum and all of those brake threads are indeed still open.

Thank you for reflecting this in your comments. Your assertion that it's the brake threads that always get closed is not accurate.

On edit: Brake threads are indeed candidates that invoke heated debate and yes they may get closed. Hitchhiker closed one of these as far back as Feb 11th because it got totally out of hand. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

DriVer;

Yes, that is the one I was referencing (NHTSA Action Number : EA07016) I'm sure their are plenty of brake threads still open and surely other threads that were closed weren't brake related. I just feel that unless the thread gets personal, it should run it's course. People tire of threads all the time and move on to other subjects. But that's only my opinion... I had to go to work for a few hours when I had lasted posted on this particular thread and I did not actually finish my thought, and that is I do not want my original question regarding the Bosch Pin Slide manual to turn into a brake thread. I only wanted to ask the question because the link was dead... after doing some Googling, I quickly answered my own question to the corrected web address.

As an aside, I removed all the wheel simulators today to set the air pressures, and while I couldn't see the brake rotors in their entirety, I couldn't see any scary looking cracks or hot spots. Having Thanksgiving dinner with Mickey and Minnie, so I'm getting the MH ready!
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</div></BLOCKQUOTE> Richard, I totally agree. If someone doesnt have a brake problem or is tired of reading about it just skip it. Closing a thread that hasnt broken any rules serves only one purpose. Hopefully someone here will come up with a fix so that those of us that have had or is having a problem can start enjoying our mh. IMO Safe Travels[/QUOTE]

And that's all I want too. I could add a lot more, (and did, but then revised it before clicking on 'Post Now') but I don't want this thead to be another brake-issue thread.

I will say that I do appreciate the threads you post; I've learned a lot from your posts and others that have posted in reply... a year ago I would never have thought that I should be climbing under the MH and having a look-see at those rotors from time to time.

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