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Bosch Responsibility for Brakes?
04-11-2009, 07:11 PM
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Wouldn't Navistar/Workhorse look to Bosch for resolution and financial responsibility for the brake recall? Aren't they the manufacturer and supplier of the braking components including the phenolic pistons?
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04-11-2009, 07:40 PM
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Workhorse was able to get $60 million from them on the last brake recall so I wouldn't be hardly surprised.
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04-12-2009, 07:32 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner Damon Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonBrazel
Workhorse was able to get $60 million from them on the last brake recall so I wouldn't be hardly surprised.
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Dang! Oh well, what's $60,000,000 among friends? Maybe this time it will be $120,000,000.
If anyone had that kind of money to dish out, why would you want all these business headaches? Must be a lot of profit in brake parts.
Seems like WH will be in a real dilemma if if Bosch just goes the BK way. It is a Workhorse and they chose to use those parts.
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Parker, Colorado
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04-12-2009, 08:22 PM
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The Bosch group of companies is very diverse and huge. According to their website, they had a 2007 profit after tax of 2,850,000,000 euros which is $3,782,000,000 USD. I doubt that they are doing as well now, but it would appear that they have enough substance to back the brake recall.
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04-13-2009, 06:08 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
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Insurance levels the playing field for these types of companies and Bosch can certainly afford the premiums. IMHO, what probably sticks in their craw was that their engineering cost v.s. profit must have gotten skewed I believe from the onset. This gives what an otherwise good company a black eye in public opinion.
The Bosch Hydro-Max is an excellent braking system for hydraulic Class 6 applications. Once we get the caliper issue resolved, I believe customer confidence will return.
The Ford folks will most likely fall under the intent of the recall although we haven't read anything about it at this time. Ford F53 motorhome chassis use the same braking system components. I believe that the use of the Bosch calipers on Fords are probably too new at the moment to cause much concern on the part of owners. We will see in the long term how all of this works out.
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