Brake problems on new units?

[RetiredBob]

So much has been written about the Workhorse brake problem that it's very difficult to sort through all the information and get an answer to my specific question. I may soon be ordering a new Winnebago Sightseer and would like to get it on the Workhorse chassis. Assuming the unit was built in 2009 or '10, would there be any concern about the brakes? Has Workhorse changed to a different brake from the one having all the problems? Thanks in advance.

[DriVer]

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Originally Posted by RetiredBob So much has been written about the Workhorse brake problem that it's very difficult to sort through all the information and get an answer to my specific question. I may soon be ordering a new Winnebago Sightseer and would like to get it on the Workhorse chassis. Assuming the unit was built in 2009 or '10, would there be any concern about the brakes? Has Workhorse changed to a different brake from the one having all the problems? Thanks in advance.

RetiredBob, Welcome to iRV2 and thanks for the question. If your Sightseer is built on a W20 chassis you could have a problem with the calipers 4 to 5 years from now however by that time a campaign will have been fielded and all the problem calipers will have been replaced at no charge to you.

The Sightseer comes on 2 tire sizes depending on your length. The 22.5" tires ride much nicer since I have has both sizes on a Winnebago Adventurer.

Your choice of a new Workhorse is a good one and I wish you many happy miles. If I can be of any help, please do not hesitate to contact me.

[RetiredBob]

Thanks for your reply. I'm looking at the Sightseer 33C, which is built on the Workhorse 22,000lb. chassis--I assume this is the W22. Does this mean no brake problems--at least, not the on-going problem that has been so frequently referred to? Also, the 22.5" tires aren't offered on this model.

[DriVer]

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Originally Posted by RetiredBob Thanks for your reply. I'm looking at the Sightseer 33C, which is built on the Workhorse 22,000lb. chassis--I assume this is the W22. Does this mean no brake problems--at least, not the on-going problem that has been so frequently referred to? Also, the 22.5" tires aren't offered on this model.

RetiredBob, Get ready to experience the rocket sled of motorhomes. An 8.1L engine on a 33 footer is a great ride!

I mis-wrote when I stated W20 because on further review I saw that it was not an option however the tires were. Your 19.5 tires will be a Load Range G since you're on a W22. I believe that you are fortunate to have skipped the W21 level which was seen in 2008. The W22 will give you a better GVWR.

When the recall begins, your 2009-2010 vehicle will not be shown as being subject to the recall. If there is any reason to bring you into the recall you will be notified and you can have that issue resolved if it become a problem. As the campaign is written, the model year vehicle that you may be buying is not subject to a recall.

[Full-Timers]

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Originally Posted by DriVer As the campaign is written, the model year vehicle that you may be buying is not subject to a recall.

And that would worry me to a great extent since it has the same brakes as the recalled units. I personally would refrain from buying a motorhome that is not listed in the recall but has the same brake calipers/pistons as the recalled units for obvious reasons.

[Spoonman]

Workhorse better make it clear that these new units will be covered or Fords will be smiling even more.

[DriVer]

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Originally Posted by Spoonman Workhorse better make it clear that these new units will be covered or Fords will be smiling even more.

I would temper that smile because Ford is using the same caliper all the way down to the same casting number.

The calipers before the switch will all be subject to the campaign since they are the same as the recalled ones. I don't see how Workhorse is going to be able to distance themselves from those and they should all be included in the recall.

[Spoonman]

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Originally Posted by DriVer I would temper that smile because Ford is using the same caliper all the way down to the same casting number. The calipers before the switch will all be subject to the campaign since they are the same as the recalled ones. I don't see how Workhorse is going to be able to distance themselves from those and they should all be included in the recall.

Exactly, but Ford hasn`t yet had as many issues and one would assume all calipers will be changed before they do, just the luck of the timing.

And yes, eventually all new units will be included but obviously some customers have questions. WH just doesn`t want to get out there and give present and future customers some peace of mind.

[j griff]

Why would you buy a motor home with the almost certain knowledge that your brake system will be subject to a future recall?

[edgray]

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Originally Posted by j griff Why would you buy a motor home with the almost certain knowledge that your brake system will be subject to a future recall?

The 8.1L GM gas engine / Allison combo and because motor homes with that combo are becoming less available as time marches on.
Ed

[Spoonman]

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Originally Posted by j griff Why would you buy a motor home with the almost certain knowledge that your brake system will be subject to a future recall?

Exactly, most will wait until the recall is complete, which is when?? People spending that kind of money are not going to risk buying a problem with a solution "sometime time the road" They want to be able to enjoy travelling without something like this hanging over their head.

[jdsr]

IMO I wouldnt care if it came with gold plated eng and trans and a full time driver if it has the same brakes that are being recalled. Geez, if these are the "SAME" brakes that are being recalled, how,why arnt they included in the recall. Something doesnt add up.