Broke down 'two'

[lochmunro]

UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!! fIRST SEE BROKE DOWN!

I leave the WH dealer, drive 100 miles, pull in to gas up, need to pull two or three foot forward, ______shift lever does sh_t, OMG, Im in Reverse, nothing is happening when I shift! I dismantle the shift column fascia, Cable from lever moving when I shift it, O>K> down under, with a full tank of gas and the Emergency Brake on,!!!!! (i'M TRAVELING ALONE BECAUSE OF THE PREVIOUS BREAKDOWN) Both the coach and! the Toad,
I crawl under neath, ENGINE RUNNING , YES! I can shift !!!!!!!!!!! manually!!!
one click is reverse! God brake hold ! shift neutral, shift drive. please brake hold, RUN to Toad release brake, backto coach, release brake!!!
Thank God, it's going. No Calls to Coach Net, Please get us home!

Jump into drivers seat and go!

Thank God again! We made it home, Crap!!!!! In our haste we forgot to close the hood, 65 mph plus and the hood jumping around! I think broke thehood bracket,scratchin the paint Damn, I'm goin to Bed, This weekend has sucked!

Adventurer now sits in Garage! still in Drive but not under POWER.

tOMMORROW IS ANOTHER DAY

ADVENTURER FOR SALE?

[Good man]

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Originally Posted by lochmunro UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!! fIRST SEE BROKE DOWN! I leave the WH dealer, drive 100 miles, pull in to gas up, need to pull two or three foot forward, ______shift lever does sh_t, OMG, Im in Reverse, nothing is happening when I shift! I dismantle the shift column fascia, Cable from lever moving when I shift it, O>K> down under, with a full tank of gas and the Emergency Brake on,!!!!! (i'M TRAVELING ALONE BECAUSE OF THE PREVIOUS BREAKDOWN) Both the coach and! the Toad, I crawl under neath, ENGINE RUNNING , YES! I can shift !!!!!!!!!!! manually!!! one click is reverse! God brake hold ! shift neutral, shift drive. please brake hold, RUN to Toad release brake, backto coach, release brake!!! Thank God, it's going. No Calls to Coach Net, Please get us home! Jump into drivers seat and go! Thank God again! We made it home, Crap!!!!! In our haste we forgot to close the hood, 65 mph plus and the hood jumping around! I think broke thehood bracket,scratchin the paint Damn, I'm goin to Bed, This weekend has sucked! Adventurer now sits in Garage! still in Drive but not under POWER. tOMMORROW IS ANOTHER DAY ADVENTURER FOR SALE?

Yes, lochmunro... Please sell it.

My heart cannot withstand the drama of hearing about anyone getting under a running coach and forcing the shift linkage manually... Brakes be da--ed!

In my post on your original "broke down" thread, warning you about working under a coach, ...pasted below;

IMPORTANT!!!
You are going to be working under a 15-20 TON coach... BE VERY CAREFUL that you don't get, in medical terms "SMUSHED"!
Be aware that you could disconnect, short out or otherwise do something to suddenly dump an air bag or retract a jack... or even cause the coach to roll off its footing.
There is a very good thread "how do you work under your RV" ... READ IT and LIVE by it.
BE CAREFUL.
If you have any doubts about how to do this safely ... DON'T DO IT. NOT WORTH IT.
ENOUGH SAID.

I did not mention the reason for my passion and concern...
I was a county coroner for a number of years and had the sad duty to "pronounce" several deaths of foolhardy persons who were killed by vehicles which were improperly lifted.

They were D.RT. (Dead. Right There.) Horrible, agonizing, gut-wrenching, sometimes slow and painful deaths. Sometimes witnessed by their wife and children.

Most often, concrete blocks, bumper jacks, or a tree limb with a chain hoist hooked to the bumper were noted as catastrophically failing on the investigative report. So, it really angers me when someone does something like that.

Late in your post, you stated you had retired from being an RV technician for 35 years... and that you had been an RVIA Certified Technician for 25 years...
I would be remiss if I did not say to you as straightforwardly as I can, with no malice, (and with apologies to the overwhelming majority of extremely talented, knowledgeable, dedicated and hard-working MH technicians) ...that the sum and total of my encounter with you in the course of 2 days has given me new insight into why there CAN be so much consternation on the part of MH owners with some MH technicians.

(To fully understand my point, it will be necessary for anyone reading this to go back and read the entire original "broke down" post.)

I will bid you good evening and good bye, sir ...and I wish you Godspeed in selling your RV.
Sincerely,
Jim

[GOLDWINGER2]

Man, be careful under a running RV. A lot of parking brakes don't hold well in REV under power. Glad you are OK. Next time at least chock the wheels.
Selling the MH won't solve everything.....they all seem to have some issues. Just fix it and keep rolling.
J

[lochmunro]

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Originally Posted by Good man Yes, lochmunro... Please sell it. My heart cannot withstand the drama of hearing about anyone getting under a running coach and forcing the shift linkage manually... Brakes be da--ed! In my post on your original "broke down" thread, warning you about working under a coach, ...pasted below; IMPORTANT!!! You are going to be working under a 15-20 TON coach... BE VERY CAREFUL that you don't get, in medical terms "SMUSHED"! Be aware that you could disconnect, short out or otherwise do something to suddenly dump an air bag or retract a jack... or even cause the coach to roll off its footing. There is a very good thread "how do you work under your RV" ... READ IT and LIVE by it. BE CAREFUL. If you have any doubts about how to do this safely ... DON'T DO IT. NOT WORTH IT. ENOUGH SAID. I did not mention the reason for my passion and concern... I was a county coroner for a number of years and had the sad duty to "pronounce" several deaths of foolhardy persons who were killed by vehicles which were improperly lifted. They were D.RT. (Dead. Right There.) Horrible, agonizing, gut-wrenching, sometimes slow and painful deaths. Sometimes witnessed by their wife and children. Most often, concrete blocks, bumper jacks, or a tree limb with a chain hoist hooked to the bumper were noted as catastrophically failing on the investigative report. So, it really angers me when someone does something like that. Late in your post, you stated you had retired from being an RV technician for 35 years... and that you had been an RVIA Certified Technician for 25 years... I would be remiss if I did not say to you as straightforwardly as I can, with no malice, (and with apologies to the overwhelming majority of extremely talented, knowledgeable, dedicated and hard-working MH technicians) ...that the sum and total of my encounter with you in the course of 2 days has given me new insight into why there CAN be so much consternation on the part of MH owners with some MH technicians. (To fully understand my point, it will be necessary for anyone reading this to go back and read the entire original "broke down" post.) I will bid you good evening and good bye, sir ...and I wish you Godspeed in selling your RV. Sincerely, Jim

Thankyou for your concern & scolding. Please note: emergency brake also on in Tow Vehicle, & you are big time correct! it was a risky move and I don't recommend anyone to to take that risk. It was my foolish choice in a desperate situation.

[Good man]

By-Gones, lochmunro... let's let it slide.

I admit I got pretty frustrated in the early hours this morning...

I also admit that I moved beyond the point of expressing concern for your safety ...beyond the point where I should have checked my opinion. I regret that I was not in control ...such is the nature of frustration.

Glad you are safely home. Hope you have better luck going forward.

And, oh yeah, don't sell your coach... But DO keep your ragged BUTT out from under it when it is not SAFELY SECURED, good Buddy!!!

It's all good,
Jim

[wilanddij]

On my 2004 Southwind, the tranny cable was jammed between some chassis uprights and the engine battery. After some acid got on it, the covering parted this May, and the only way to move the tranny shifter from first to park was to stop the engine and while I held the cable cover with a couple of pliers have the DW move the shifter. I could do this thru the front hood opening. That would get me into neutral so I could start the engine. I stayed two nights on the road this way, and to get it into park so I could use levelers and slides, I had to get under the coach, with the engine stopped and PB on, to pull the tranny into park.

The lesson I learned it that you need to make sure stuff on your MH is mounted correctly, and keep checking it.

[Bob (WA0MQE)]

What year is your coach? Workhorse had a problem with the shift cable on some early year motorhomes. Apparently the shift cable being close to the exhaust manifold would overheat and cause the cable to move really hard or not at all. My original moho, a 2001 had this problem. Service Center called Workhorse and they sent out a new cable that was insulated to prevent this problem. I assume all newer coaches came out with this new style.

[wilanddij]

Bob, if you're asking about mine, I think 2004 listed twice in my post should answer the question. Also, my cable disintegrated by rubbing on the frame and getting some battery acid on it. Nothing to do with heat from the manifold.

[lochmunro]

What found after I arrived home & of course chocking the wheels, I crawled under & traced the cable. It had been rubbing against the frame, finally breaking the outer sheild. Hanging loose on the cable was the loop that was supposed to it firmly away from everything else. I suspect when the workhorse dealer replaced the motor at 9000 mi, a few loops were forgotten about. Twice now I have broken down from a wire rubbing and shorting, 1st blowing a fuse that ran half the cylinders, 2nd dead short killing pc module, & now this cable, at 27000.
You Bet before my next trip, I'll remove the doghouse and do the best check I can!

Thanks for the support
Tim Munro 2005 Adventurer

[DriVer]

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Originally Posted by lochmunro You Bet before my next trip, I'll remove the doghouse and do the best check I can!

Sounds like a plan to me.

[Good man]

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Originally Posted by lochmunro What found after I arrived home & of course chocking the wheels, I crawled under & traced the cable. It had been rubbing against the frame, finally breaking the outer sheild. Hanging loose on the cable was the loop that was supposed to it firmly away from everything else. I suspect when the workhorse dealer replaced the motor at 9000 mi, a few loops were forgotten about. Twice now I have broken down from a wire rubbing and shorting, 1st blowing a fuse that ran half the cylinders, 2nd dead short killing pc module, & now this cable, at 27000. You Bet before my next trip, I'll remove the doghouse and do the best check I can! Thanks for the support Tim Munro 2005 Adventurer

Way to go locmunro !!
These babies require constant checking... just too many things to go wrong!
Take care,
Jim