Cracked rotors replaced today

[Full-Timers]

Just had 3 out of 4 cracked rotors replaced. I am a bit disappointed that the shop didn’t replace the 4th one even though it wasn’t cracked. I always though that when working on brakes that you ALWAYS replace everything as a set on each axel. The good part is, since they found no evidence that the brakes were overheated, Workhorse is paying. That is why they didn’t replace the 4th one but they could have at least asked me if I would be willing to pay for it.
While doing the job they noticed that my pads were just about down to the metal so they replaced all of them. Of course that is my bill.

Now I have 2 questions.

• Is it acceptable to only replace 3 out of 4 rotors or should I make it a point to have the 3rd replaced?
• Should my brakes be almost metal to metal at 33,000 miles?

[oemtech]

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Originally Posted by Full-Timers Now I have 2 questions. Is it acceptable to only replace 3 out of 4 rotors or should I make it a point to have the 3rd replaced? Should my brakes be almost metal to metal at 33,000 miles?

No & No

[FLYTYER]

Dale, which part of question #1 are you answering?

More guidance is needed.

[oemtech]

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Originally Posted by FLYTYER Dale, which part of question #1 are you answering? More guidance is needed.

NO it is NOT acceptable to only replace 3 out of 4 rotors.

NO your brakes should NOT be almost metal to metal at 33,000 miles.

[sip]

33,000 sounds a little soon to me unless you drive mostly in a hilly area. I have 59,000 on mine but mostly on flat interstate

[surfride]

I guess being responsible does not pay. I have no damage to my brakes, done all the required maintenance, yet when it comes recall time, I will only have the calipers replaced, and still have 1/2 worn out brakes. I guess I should "drive it like I stole it" as I have read in other posts, take off my supplimental brakes, cause damage so wh can replace my brakes through my negligence. Moral hazard applies to everything, no one is responsible for anything anymore. gimme-gimme-gimme

I appreciate this is rant, but kind of tired of hearing all the complaining about wh and owners expecting something for nothing. Some owners may have a legitimate complaint, but I imagine this is fractional.

[sknight]

So long as the old one isn't cracked and above thickness specs then it's safe, but I've have paid for the fourth had they asked. I doubt you have anything to worry about though. I do hope they turned it during this.

33K is a bit light for modern front pads, and about two-three times too fast for rears. I'd expect 45K for the fronts in a typical situation. It all depends on where you drive really. My company car has 103,000 and still on the factory pads, but it lives on the expressway.

[hwybnb]

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Originally Posted by surfride I guess being responsible does not pay. I have no damage to my brakes, done all the required maintenance, yet when it comes recall time, I will only have the calipers replaced, and still have 1/2 worn out brakes. I guess I should "drive it like I stole it" as I have read in other posts, take off my supplimental brakes, cause damage so wh can replace my brakes through my negligence. Moral hazard applies to everything, no one is responsible for anything anymore. gimme-gimme-gimme

That statement is so hopelessly out of whack it leaves me speechless so I will not even try to refute it.

[DriVer]

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Originally Posted by sknight 33K is a bit light for modern front pads, and about two-three times too fast for rears. I'd expect 45K for the fronts in a typical situation.

I went nearly 60,000 miles on my brakes before I replaced everything.

[sknight]

As I said, it's driving situations. Someone that travels the midwest will get far more life than someone traveling back and forth across the rockies.

Just for chuckles my TV has 81K on the front pads and 118K on the factory rears, but my truck has brakes just as big as a W20 and I'm big on engine braking.

If the rotors weren't blued and obviously overheated chances are he's not too hard on his brakes.

Again, it's all about where and how you drive. We had a few of those chassis when I worked for a municipality, if we got 15K out of the fronts and 25K out of the rears we were happy. A police car would get about 5-8K out of all the pads we tried.

[DriVer]

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Originally Posted by sknight Again, it's all about where and how you drive..

sknight, That's true and in my case over the years that I had my vehicle and up to the 60,000 mile mark my brakes were used a lot so I had many thousands of brake cycles.

It does appear that there is a definite correlation between brake cycles and brake failures because what is seen is that commercial Workhorse products like those for UPS, and others don't present with stuck calipers. The commercial chassis use the same brakes that we have.

RVs being what they are - are always going to be used infrequently, storred in some of the most various conditions and driven in more ways than anyone can fathom. I expect however that the new design will obsolesce the brake problems that we are currently having and will allow people to accomplish what I did and that's to wear out a set of brakes on their motorhome.

By the time I needed brake work, I needed everything!

Just to share a footnote about my case, I might not have initially qualified for any reimbursements according to the Interim Notice "because" I didn't start out with stuck calipers. I wore the back plates into the rotors.