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05-29-2008, 12:16 PM
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Sorry folks, its me again,
I'm going to torture you folks with this rubbish because I'm not sure exactly where to post this and I like the valuable chat that you all provide.
I understand that GVWR is established as a maximum "safe" weight for a chassis while the vehicle is in motion.
The question is, while not in motion (parked) is there a maximum weight for a chassis?
I know this sound odd, but there are any number of events which might lead to a weight greater than GVWR being applied to said chassis. Now, I don't mean an elephant or anything ridiculously heavy, but something along the lines of a lot of people or anything that creates a temporary weight in excess of the GVWR.
Just curious.
Steve
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05-29-2008, 12:16 PM
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Sorry folks, its me again,
I'm going to torture you folks with this rubbish because I'm not sure exactly where to post this and I like the valuable chat that you all provide.
I understand that GVWR is established as a maximum "safe" weight for a chassis while the vehicle is in motion.
The question is, while not in motion (parked) is there a maximum weight for a chassis?
I know this sound odd, but there are any number of events which might lead to a weight greater than GVWR being applied to said chassis. Now, I don't mean an elephant or anything ridiculously heavy, but something along the lines of a lot of people or anything that creates a temporary weight in excess of the GVWR.
Just curious.
Steve
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05-29-2008, 03:55 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
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When you are not moving all bets are off. The only limiting factor that I could see would be the load on the tires. When you lower the jacks you essentially have a house.
I don't believe that we have ever discussed the matter. The GCWR by the way is the combination of the GVWR (weight of the motorhome) + the toad (towed) weight or the sum total of the entire vehicle and trailer while it's moving down the road.
corrected typo
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05-29-2008, 04:04 PM
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I don't think you can overload a parked MH.
Just look at all the people in the rigs at RV shows.
I believe Driver is mistaken about GVWR.
GVWR is the maximum weight of the MH, fully loaded.
GCWR is the maximum combined weight of the MH and the toad or trailer.
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05-29-2008, 05:31 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Route 66:
GCWR is the maximum combined weight of the MH and the toad or trailer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Dirk, Yes that's correct.
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05-29-2008, 05:56 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">GCWR is the maximum combined weight of the MH and the toad or trailer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just being a little  here, but I think you left out the "V" 
It is the Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating, but you knew that, didn't you. ED
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05-29-2008, 06:18 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by edgray:It is the Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating, but you knew that, didn't you. ED </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Ed, Yes that's correct.
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05-30-2008, 10:53 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">maximum "safe" weight </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I do not think safety is the primary issue or is a major factor in vehicle weight ratings.
It would probably me more accurate to think of the vehicle weight ratings as guidelines for maximum weight to be able to achieve expected lifetimes under nominal conditions with an appropriate maintenance schedule.
You have to really exceed the weight ratings or the realm of 'nominal conditions' in order for safety to be an issue. Of course, the load will affect handling and the driver must compensate appropriately but that isn't a matter of weight ratings.
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05-30-2008, 02:24 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">You have to really exceed the weight ratings or the realm of 'nominal conditions' in order for safety to be an issue. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Try telling that to the plaintiff's lawyer!
ED
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