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DriVer · 08-21-2006, 01:46 PM

For information regarding the new 2007 emissions standards and Maxxforce Engines from International Truck & Engine please down load this PDF file. It's very long 8.0 MB and requires a broadband connection.

It's an excellent document with lots of graphics that makes the new technology easy to understand even for the lay person.

There is a small portion of the document that tells about the Maxxforce 6.4.

DriVer · 08-21-2006, 01:46 PM

For information regarding the new 2007 emissions standards and Maxxforce Engines from International Truck & Engine please down load this PDF file. It's very long 8.0 MB and requires a broadband connection.

It's an excellent document with lots of graphics that makes the new technology easy to understand even for the lay person.

There is a small portion of the document that tells about the Maxxforce 6.4.

edgray · 08-23-2006, 06:49 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">There is a small portion of the document that tells about the Maxxforce 6.4. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

"Configuration V8 "¢Displacement6.4L (390 cu in)"¢Power Output 200 -230hp @ 2600 rpm "¢Peak Torque560 -620 ft lbs. @ 1400 rpm "¢AspirationTurbocharged"¢Combustion System Direct Injection"¢B10 / B50 Life 262,500 / 375,000 Miles "¢Dry Engine Weight 1150 lbs."

Am I reading this right-230HP & 620 lbs.-ft. are max output? Is not the ISB (5.9L) 300 Hp & 600 lbs-ft ?

I thought the larger Maxxforce engine would be more powerful, but I'm not a mechanic-so waddaiknow. Can someone 'splain dis to me?? ED

DriVer · 08-24-2006, 03:49 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by edgray:
Am I reading this right-230HP & 620 lbs.-ft. are max output? Is not the ISB (5.9L) 300 Hp & 600 lbs-ft ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Hi Ed, Ford's 6.0L PSD has 325 HP with 570 lb/ft of torque. I'd like to say that the 6.4L will probably do better than that.

The HP and torque range in the article is for International Medium Duty trucks and it may not be the performance figures that would be dialed into a 6.4L as used in an RV or a pickup truck.

I thought it would be a good paper to bring folks up to speed on the new diesel emission controls for 07.

edgray · 08-24-2006, 05:12 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I thought it would be a good paper to bring folks up to speed on the new diesel emission controls for 07 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hi MIKE, YES it is an excellent resource for the layman to help understand these emmision issues that ALL the diesel motor makers are facing starting with Jan. 07 production. That is why I bumped it back to the top.

I've heard rumors that many are "stockpiling" today's engines that do not meet the more stringent requirements. I'll bet THAT takes a lot of $$$. ED

Jestme13 · 08-24-2006, 05:51 AM

My choice would be the H/O Cummins ISB.

The Maxxforce has to make more hp for the American market, or it will be a loser right out of the box.

George Miklas · 08-24-2006, 07:24 AM

Jodi and I are both school bus drivers. She is a full-time driver, and I am a substitute driver. The school bus company is installing a new fuel tank specifically for low-sulfur fuel, which is supposedly not widely available. The word here is that there has not been any testing of this new low-sulfur fuel in the old high-sulfur engines. The bus mechanic spoke about his speculation that every old engine will need some sort of retrofit equipment, probably additional filtering, to make the injectors compatible with the new fuel.

The fleet consists of International, Cummins, Powerstroke, Duramax, and Mercedes Benz diesel engines.

Does anyone have information that I could pass along to the mechanic?

GM

Bigdaddy · 08-26-2006, 04:45 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by George Miklas:
Jodi and I are both school bus drivers. She is a full-time driver, and I am a substitute driver. The school bus company is installing a new fuel tank specifically for low-sulfur fuel, which is supposedly not widely available. The word here is that there has not been any testing of this new low-sulfur fuel in the old high-sulfur engines. The bus mechanic spoke about his speculation that every old engine will need some sort of retrofit equipment, probably additional filtering, to make the injectors compatible with the new fuel.

The fleet consists of International, Cummins, Powerstroke, Duramax, and Mercedes Benz diesel engines.

Does anyone have information that I could pass along to the mechanic?

GM </div></BLOCKQUOTE>My wife and I both drive full time! The shop guys stated that the only thing need is an additative (sp) added to the new fuel for the old engines. Too many old truckers on the road to let the oil co. require them to make changes to their engines. We'll see?