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NHTSA Campaign 09V110000 A RECALL HAS BEEN ISSUED
04-09-2009, 08:05 AM
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Monaco Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Hi Everybody,
It is now official, a Brake recall has been issued by NAVISTAR.
Here is the Link:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/recalls...e&refurl=email
Good luck everybody
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Edmonton Alberta Canada
2002 HR Vacationer, W22, 8.1L GM
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04-09-2009, 08:29 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Patience and persistence paid off.
George
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Kathy & George Zimm & 2 Shelties, Merlin & Lancelot
Mickleton, NJ
2006 Coachman Epic & 2011 Chevy Equinox Toad
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04-09-2009, 08:46 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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I wonder about owners of W20 chassis. I understand we have exactly the same brake system as the W22s???
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2005 Winnebago Adventurer 33RV | 2004 WH W20 Chassis | 2010 Honda CR-V Toad
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04-09-2009, 09:07 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner Freightliner Owners Club Winnebago Owners Club
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OK, but now what about those of us who have paid big money to have this defect repaired because Workhorse refused to acknowledge it was a problem???????
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RickandCheryl, 2011 Winnebago Journey Express, 2003 Acura TL Toad.
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04-09-2009, 09:08 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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It's about time. I'm glad to see a positive result.
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Workhorse W22
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04-09-2009, 09:09 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rickandcheryl
OK, but now what about those of us who have paid big money to have this defect repaired because Workhorse refused to acknowledge it was a problem???????
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Rick,
Contact WH and let us know what they say.
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04-09-2009, 09:11 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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That is why in another thread I suggested then was not the time for repetitive complaints here. it was time to let NHTSA do it's thing.
NOW, NHTSA has done it's thign
So Now it the time for me to schedule an appointment with my authorized Workhorse Service Center
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Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business.
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04-09-2009, 09:19 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Another question. Will they replace old parts with a new design? Will we find out what the problem was/is?
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Scott
2003 Allegro, 32BA, W20,'06 Saturn Vue, Demco Aluminator, RM9700, R1150RT B'mer
SE Louisiana
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04-09-2009, 10:38 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Well when I read that a recall had been issiued I called Register Chev who is a Workhorse Service center and the lady I talked to had no information on it. she said she was going to call Workhorse and call me back. I would like to get it done because I am going on a long summer trip soon. Are they any phone numbers that I could call to get on the list soon? I wonder how long this thing is going to take before we hear anything?
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04-09-2009, 10:48 AM
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Appalachian Campers Fleetwood Owners Club
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Whew...thank goodness- for those of us who have W20's-the recall (from w/h)has a different #. it's 50401-c. that's according to my w/h member site. i registered my vin# with w/h as soon as i found out about the brake problem and got that recall taken care of at the ser/ctr. as the signature shows i have an '04 w20
good luck to all of US.
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04-09-2009, 10:49 AM
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iRV2 Marketing
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
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Quote:
Originally Posted by j griff
I wonder about owners of W20 chassis. I understand we have exactly the same brake system as the W22s???
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j. griff, Yes that's correct.
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04-09-2009, 10:56 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Some Quotes from NHTSA
C 3 April 1,2009
• 3/08 -11/08 Suspect brake calipers from field investigations were returned to Bosch Engineering for analysis. The Bosch analysis included functional testing and dimensional checks of all components. The Bosch analysis revealed examples of piston growth.
NHTSA conducted an independent piston growth study using several different piston materials (including the Bosch phenolic piston) and made measurements after subjecting the pistons to humidity, temperature and pressure cycles. These tests also revealed piston growth (NHTSA test still ongoing).
Test results from both Bosch and NHTSA indicate piston hang up in the caliper bore is a
result of piston growth due to moisture ingression over long periods of time in the RV
chassis application. Piston hang up can cause overheating at the wheel end, which can
cause the brake fluid to overheat with a resulting increase in braking distance.
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12/08 WCC voluntarily provided updated warranty and field report data to NHTSA for analysis.
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2/24/09 WCC and Navistar met with NHTSA and an analysis of WCC and NHTSA data revealed approximately 120 reports of apparent brake fluid boil due to pistons sticking in the caliper bore.
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2/25/09 -3/24/09 WCC and Navistar initiated an in-depth analysis of WCC and NHTSA complaint data.
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3/23/09 WCC determined the extent of the suspect vehicle population.
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3/25/09 WCC/Navistar declared safety recall 50901-C
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PROGRAM TO REMEDY DEFECT /Part 573.6 ((')(8)/
• The remedy has not been determined at this time. An amended report will be submitted at a later date outlining the remedy and schedule of implementation.
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PLAN FOR REIMBURSEMENT /Part 573.6 ((')(8)(i)/
• Some of the vehicles in this recall fall outside the warranty period; therefore, Navistar's plan for reimbursement of pre-notification remedies, on file and dated 1/7/2007, appl ies and instructions will be included in the customer notification.
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SCHEDULE FOR RECALL NOTIFICATION [Part 573.6 ((')(8)(i)/
• Availability of repair parts is undetermined as of the date of this report.
It seems all of our questions will be answered with the WH notification .
George
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04-09-2009, 10:57 AM
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iRV2 Marketing
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skipwil
Whew...thank goodness- for those of us who have W20's-the recall (from w/h)has a different #. it's 50401-c. that's according to my w/h member site.
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skipwill, The 50401-C was the original recall for the ZOPS brakes. The current campaign that was announced is 50901-C. I don't believe that will immediately show up in "My Workhorse".
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F&R Track Bars, Safety+ , Ultrapower, Allison UP Grade Brake, S&B CAI, Taylor Extremes, SGII-X Gauge
TST 507, Blue Ox, SMI, Koni FSD, CrossFire
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04-09-2009, 11:13 AM
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Before everyone starts flooding Workhorse Dealers with phone calls about getting scheduled in or finding out more information, please wait to hear more from Workhorse themselves. As of this time we have not formally received any information from Workhorse concerning actions to be taken on this recall, nor do we have any ETA on the replacement parts. Thank you all.
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