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01-22-2007, 05:02 AM
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Be advised that this filter is also used on GM light trucks and the filter can be obtained or ordered through any GM dealer. I purchased mine from a Chev. dealer. I provided the part number and they had it in stock. Granted it was a large GM dealer.
I agree that it is a shame this filter is not available through aftermarket suppliers.
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01-22-2007, 06:32 AM
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Joe,
You got a Part # and Price?
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01-22-2007, 11:03 AM
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0emtech:
I used the WorkHorse number W0004996 for the dual outlet filter and they provided the correct filter. I'm not sure if they had to cross the number to a GM number but the filter is identical and has this number stamped on it.
The price was nearly $100. I wasn't too pleased with that but at least I now have a spare filter should I need it.
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01-22-2007, 11:32 AM
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WOW.... Did they KISS you first! That's $40 more than what WCC charges.
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01-22-2007, 04:33 PM
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Driver, since you seem to be very connected to Workhorse and the WH sponsored forum, and I would assume you know many of us have so much trouble getting a basic maintenance item like a fuel filter, Dont you think it would be in the best interest for WH and their customers to let them know they need to make the filter available at many more places than they are now. I and probably know one else has ever had to order a fuel filter before not to mention the places where you can order are few and far between. It been a week since I ordered mine from a svc cntr and its still not in.
Travel , I have'nt modified mine yet but when my WH filter comes in , I'm going to buy the 'old atyle filter to compare it to and see if I can figure out a way to modify it. We've got some good welder at our shop at work and hopefuly I can find the fittings I need. I don't know what kind of emissions thing that Driver is talking about but I've never had a vehicle that any more than one inlet and one outlet on the filter.
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01-22-2007, 06:34 PM
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Max49, go review the Fuel Filter mod thread I did and you will have all you need to do the mod.
Here is a picture of the parts needed to do the mod.
The filter is the old style. The fitting is a 16mm/AN. You cut off the AN portion and weld into the piece you cut off from the new style filter you remove.
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01-22-2007, 06:46 PM
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OEM Tech, is that silver fitting on the right cut from the WCC filter? Where did you get the brass fitting and what is it called.
Does that 3rd line go back to the tank?
I see nothing wrong with that, it looks like it would function exactly like the WH filter. When and if the aftermarket filter makers , make it , that's basicly what they will do without the brass fitting. I don't understand why Driver is upset by this.
I quoted you so I could see both pics on the same page. Turned out good.
After looking again, is there any concern that the brass fitting could restrict the fuel flow? It obviously must be a little smaller.
Now if someone could post a pic of the OEM WH filter, we could put that on the same page to compare.
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01-23-2007, 02:35 AM
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Max49, as I have said in 2 differnet posts go review the post I did on the Fuel Filter Mod as it has all the info you need... Here is the url pointer - http://irv2.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8626012545/m/...271005672#1271005672
As for the size of brass fitting.. Take a look at the size of the fuel line ID and I don't think you will have any problems. Also, remember the fuel system is under about 60 psi.
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01-23-2007, 02:37 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The fitting is a 6mm/AN. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Dale, is that the description I would use to buy a fitting to build an adaptor?...rgr..
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01-23-2007, 03:16 AM
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I just checked and it is a 16mm and not 6mm. Huskyjack gets them at Orme Brothers (part #185005 - $9.37). But you should be ale to get them other places as there are used in the Chevy LT1 fuel system Do a Google search on 16mm fuel fittings.
Remember the AN part gets cut off so the size does not matter. A 16mm/an -6 will be cheaper than a -10.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I just checked and it is a 16mm and not 6mm. Huskyjack gets them at Orme Brothers (part #185005 - $9.37). But you should be ale to get them other places as there are used in the Chevy LT1 fuel system Do a Google search on 16mm fuel fittings.
Remember the AN part gets cut off so the size does not matter. A 16mm/an -6 will be cheaper than a -10. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thanks Dale, Im off to the store...rgr...
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01-23-2007, 05:21 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by max49:
I don't understand why Driver is upset by this. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I am no where near upset Max. I am just stating the obvious and simply want to present the facts as I know them.
You just can't assume the liability to sell one of these modifications to a customer unless you can also accept the liability. There isn't enough money profit wise to make that happen.
A DIY project would be the only way that one can pursue this modification however just know that it is an unauthorized fuel system and or emission control modification.
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01-23-2007, 03:23 PM
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Thanks Driver, Did you get a chance to talk to boys at WH and tell them their customers are so desperate for fuel filters that we are starting to make homemade filters. They should'nt be too proud of that so maybe you guys will bring it up at a board meeting . Maybe eventualy we will be able to just go buy a fuel filter for it rather than make our own.
Let us know what they say about this.
I bought wires and an old style Fram filter today #3727. If I ever get my fuel filter I ordered 8 days ago , I can compare the 2.
They've still got the rig waiting for and air bag, 10 days and counting.
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01-23-2007, 04:04 PM
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Oem tech, I have saved all your pictures of the filter mod. I'm still waiting for the WH filter to come in. I did'nt know you could weld the steel part of the old filter to a brass fitting.
In pic 4 it looks like it is threaded on. Then in pic 5 it's all copper color. Was this welded or brazed with a torch? Is the steel and brass fitting actually welded together?
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