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Old 12-02-2018, 07:36 PM   #1
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Replace shocks and springs?

We have a 2004 Holiday Rambler Admiral on a W-22 workhorse chassis. The springs on the passenger side our almost flat according to my husband. Had a truck shop look at it and gave us an estimate of almost $2500 to replace springs and shocks. My husband is wondering if it is just the shocks that are so bad that the springs are so flattened out? Anybody have an idea as to whether this could be the case?
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Remember shocks do not carry or hold up weight. They just control how fast or slow it moves! So if your springs are flat they need to be re arched or replaced.
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We have a 2004 Holiday Rambler Admiral on a W-22 workhorse chassis. The springs on the passenger side our almost flat according to my husband. Had a truck shop look at it and gave us an estimate of almost $2500 to replace springs and shocks. My husband is wondering if it is just the shocks that are so bad that the springs are so flattened out? Anybody have an idea as to whether this could be the case?
How much distance is there between the springs and the bump stops?
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Old 12-02-2018, 08:22 PM   #4
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There is no space between the springs and the bump stops.
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You could always add Air lift, or Sumo Springs. Each air bag is designed to lift 2500 LBS. IF you really need a lot of lift, you could put air bags in the designed location and put sumo springs between the frame and the axle. I think there should be about 6 inches between the frame and the axle at normal ride height.
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Look up super steer .com they sell what your looking for . You need new springs in front.
I replaced mine and got rid of the air bags .smartest thing I ever did . Rides like a car.
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SO we need new leaf springs, shocks and sumo springs?
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SO we need new leaf springs, shocks and sumo springs?
Bite the bullet and "do it right" the first time....
Your suspension has worn out..
Your base suspension needs to be fully replaced first...........then add the after market items if needed..
Leaf springs in the rear, Up graded coil springs (without the OEM air bag inserts) for the front axle and new shocks all around..
Also replace ball joints,tie rod ends and basically tighten up the front end..Also a good alignment fore & aft ...
As I suggested... Do It Right the First Time...One & Done.
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Look up super steer .com they sell what your looking for . You need new springs in front.
I replaced mine and got rid of the air bags .smartest thing I ever did . Rides like a car.
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Bite the bullet and "do it right" the first time....
Your suspension has worn out..
Your base suspension needs to be fully replaced first...........then add the after market items if needed..
Leaf springs in the rear, Up graded coil springs (without the OEM air bag inserts) for the front axle and new shocks all around..
Also replace ball joints,tie rod ends and basically tighten up the front end..Also a good alignment fore & aft ...
As I suggested... Do It Right the First Time...One & Done.
The OP has a W22 chassis and does not have coil springs/airbags or ball joints.

It has, leaf springs and kingpins.

Although it does have tie rods, those should be replaced when worn, not as a preventative maintenance item.



OP, is the $2500 for all 4 leafsprings and all 4 shocks and is this with labor included?
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The OP has a W22 chassis and does not have coil springs/airbags or ball joints.

It has, leaf springs and kingpins.

Although it does have tie rods, those should be replaced when worn, not as a preventative maintenance item.
I was being "generic" to cover those "other GM chassis" that may be having the same issues.. And our former GM chassis coach (p-30) did have coils springs with the mini airbags.
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The OP has a W22 chassis and does not have coil springs/airbags or ball joints.

It has, leaf springs and kingpins.

Although it does have tie rods, those should be replaced when worn, not as a preventative maintenance item.



OP, is the $2500 for all 4 leafsprings and all 4 shocks and is this with labor included?

The quote is actually 3100 for front shocks (the back were just replaced 2 years ago) both leaf springs on front, rotate tires and alignment and labor.
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Im not sure how much a spring shop would charge for making the springs, but Ultra RV has the front leaf springs for $650 a piece


So unless you can get a cheaper spring i would think that quote is not out of line.

Are you sure you actually need new leaf springs, the reason i why I ask is, these springs are pretty flat anyways.

I've read about people replace the leaf springs because they broke, or the coach is leaning to one side.

Here is a link to Ultra RV site with an actual picture of a leaf spring not on the chassis. You can see there is very little arch.

https://www.ultrarvproducts.com/W000...c,-Front-RH-LH
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Go to 3-4 shops for Quote . But research spring or leafs up front you need so they can't over charge for parts witch they like to do . You will be surprised what a good Google research for leafs and or springs
Will do for your project . It's nature of the beast heavier motorhome more money it takes. Remember big Dog big bucks.

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Ok any chance someone can take a picture of their leaf springs on their coach so we can compare to what ours looks like?
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