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09-22-2007, 04:23 AM
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Has anybody put a steer safe on a w-24 chassis befor, I have a 37ft. Sea Breeze that I was thinking looking to inprove the handling, any help would be great, Thanks Ken
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09-22-2007, 04:23 AM
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Has anybody put a steer safe on a w-24 chassis befor, I have a 37ft. Sea Breeze that I was thinking looking to inprove the handling, any help would be great, Thanks Ken
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09-22-2007, 06:07 AM
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See my sig for my coach. It has a W-24 with a 228" WB. I just had a Safe-T-Steer on less than a week ago. I would think that the Steer-Safe would have some similar results. I have only driven it 20 miles with the Safe-T-Steer on but it made an improvement in steering. It doesn't feel nearly as "floaty" as it did prior. It was not a 'night and day' difference but it did help enough that I am more comfortable driving. My knuckles are not totally white anymore.  The underlying possible safety improvement (possibly more control IF a front tire blows) is money well spent to me, the handling was a bonus.
To me, my coach handles like crap. My coach seems to be very butt heavy. But after getting it weighed, and talking to other owners of Dolphins and coaches with similar weights on the axles, I guess I am not alone.
Many will suggest what I am going to suggest, try eliminating all the basics first before spending money. Alignment, weights(front to back, corners), Tire pressures based on weights. Then after all that is done and you are not happy, then spend money.
I have a couple recent threads here on weights and tire pressures. There is a lot of good information from others on this forum contained in those threads.
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2 little doges Lola and Tilly
2008 National Dolphin DX35Ci, 2007 Saturn VUE
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09-22-2007, 12:33 PM
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Mike, I forgot to ask, are you towing the VUE? If so how does the handling change when the car is attached?
Additionally when making a fairly sharp turn does the front end seem to "jump" part way through the turn?
Fred
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09-22-2007, 02:05 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fred and Bonnie:
Mike, I forgot to ask, are you towing the VUE? If so how does the handling change when the car is attached?
Additionally when making a fairly sharp turn does the front end seem to "jump" part way through the turn?
Fred </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Fred, Nope, not yet on the Saturn. I have all the parts but have not had time to install them yet. I really hope not much changes. The wife suggested that I call to see how much it will be to get things installed just to get it done. Maybe pulling the VUE will make things a little more stable. Do you notice a difference?
As for the 'jump', are you talking befor or after the Safe t Steer or just in general? I have not noticed anything like that. I am going to do a test drive tomorrow to try to find that darn leak. I will pay more attention.
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09-22-2007, 02:26 PM
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Mike, I am afraid you will notice a increase in "Tail Wag" when the VUE is tagging along.
The "Jump" I previously experienced was when making a sweeping turn the front end felt like it moved, needing additional correction. I was informed that front end movement is typical on front suspension systems using large leaf springs. The Davis Tru Track bar stabilized the front end.
Fred
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09-22-2007, 04:19 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fred and Bonnie:
Mike, I am afraid you will notice a increase in "Tail Wag" when the VUE is tagging along. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Fred, A small simple device called an "Immobilizer" from Blue Ox takes a lot of the play out of the attachment point between the tow bar and the receiver. Stabilizing that joint helps hold the vehicle in line with the receiver.
Regarding tracking, I realized a great deal of improvement with the installation of my rear track bar. This was while not towing and it was readily apparent from day one. Towing with the track bar improved that capability as well and I do not feel the vehicle on the rear of the motorhome while underway.
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09-22-2007, 06:04 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DriVer:
Regarding tracking, I realized a great deal of improvement with the installation of my rear track bar. This was while not towing and it was readily apparent from day one. Towing with the track bar improved that capability as well and I do not feel the vehicle on the rar of the motorhome while underway. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes I was talking about the rear track bar when I was explaining the "tail wag", especilly noticable when being passed or driving in cross-wind situations.
I couldn't find any info on the Blue Ox web site concerning the immoblizer, could you provide additional information.
Fred
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09-22-2007, 06:32 PM
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09-23-2007, 10:45 AM
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Isn't that great! RV UPgrades has it all!
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