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06-19-2018, 06:05 AM
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Steering
I am maintaining my inlaws motor home after my father in law passed away. So we are taking it on a long trip with mother in law. I purchased safe t steer and installed it because last trip i went on it wandered like crazy. After I installed it yesterday I finally noticed what the springs were on the spindles. I had steer safe already installed. Is there any harm in running both?
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06-19-2018, 05:47 PM
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Location: SW Louisiana
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We need a lot more information here, including which chassis you have. Having said that you may have any number of worn steering components that are causing your problems, some of which the Safe-T Plus may help cover up, some it might not. If you Also have a Safety-Steer spring type steering stabilizer, I have read that both it and a Safety-Plus steering stabilizer can be installed at the same time, though they do slightly different things and the Safety-Steer spring units may remove different slack for worn steering components than the Safety Plus does.
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2002 Safari Trek 2830 on P32 Chassis with 8.1L w/ 400 watts solar 420Ah LiFePo4
2017 Jeep Cherokee Overland & 2007 Toyota Yaris TOADs with Even Brake,
Demco Commander tow bar and Blue Ox / Roadmaster base plates
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06-20-2018, 05:29 AM
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Its a 2000 Winnebago Brave 35', workhorse chassis. I am going to get the front tires off the ground tonight and check the ball joints, wheel bearings and tie rods. Should there be any play in wheel bearings?
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06-20-2018, 07:03 AM
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Spend some time reading about the Supersteer bellcrank replacement. TONS of information here at irv2 and the web in general.
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06-21-2018, 05:33 AM
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Thanks Tim, I did go check the wheel bearings (needed tightened a tiny bit) I also did notice the bell crank was worn. I ordered one last night and hope its here before the weekend so I can change it and get it weighed and aligned next week before we leave. The shop that put the tires on just filled them to 110-120 psi so ill have to adjust that according to the weights. And figure out how much pressure to put in air bags on the front.
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06-22-2018, 12:31 PM
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Make sure the shop did not over torque the lug nuts, the P32 chassis with 19.5 inch wheels calls for the lug nuts to be torqued to 185 ft lbs, vs the W series which call for 450+
I recently had a tire replaced at a local tire shop, told them not to over torque, gave them the correct specs, then when I went to pull the wheel to check the brakes recently barely got that one off with my 750 pound rated impact wrench.
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2002 Safari Trek 2830 on P32 Chassis with 8.1L w/ 400 watts solar 420Ah LiFePo4
2017 Jeep Cherokee Overland & 2007 Toyota Yaris TOADs with Even Brake,
Demco Commander tow bar and Blue Ox / Roadmaster base plates
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06-22-2018, 12:58 PM
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I had a motorhome on a freightliner xc chassis that had problem with wandering. A new bell crank made a world difference. I bet that will solve the problem.
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06-24-2018, 07:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by csmart
Thanks Tim, I did go check the wheel bearings (needed tightened a tiny bit) I also did notice the bell crank was worn. I ordered one last night and hope its here before the weekend so I can change it and get it weighed and aligned next week before we leave. The shop that put the tires on just filled them to 110-120 psi so ill have to adjust that according to the weights. And figure out how much pressure to put in air bags on the front.
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Remember that the P30 Chassis has two bell cranks. One of the two being loose can still cause some issues, although I replaced just the driver’s side and it did help.
When the P30 chassis is sorted out, it’s a nice drive, the Beesing being the good ride.
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2000 Euroliner 300GL
1998 P30 16K chassis
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06-27-2018, 03:35 PM
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+1 for the Supersteer bellcrank. It helped a bunch with my 94 P32......as did new shocks, adjusting the steering box, correct tracking/ alignment and a rear trac bar.
It's a semi decent drive now
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06-28-2018, 04:16 AM
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Super bell crank and getting ride height close made a major improvement
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06-28-2018, 10:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by csmart
Super bell crank and getting ride height close made a major improvement
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Fantastic. Reminds me to check the ride height on my sister's, not even sure there's air in the airbags. Ride height is measured/checked at the bumpstops right? I need to google some and find the writeup about it I saw a while back...
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06-29-2018, 07:07 PM
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1 3/4 to 2 1/2 if i remember right
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