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08-02-2018, 04:15 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Sumo Springs
Hi everyone,
I have been reading posts about Sumosprings. Not knowing what they are I looked them up on the internet. They looked surprisingly familiar. It seems that my 2003 34' Georgetown on the Workhorse W22 chassis has these on the front only when I bought it.
My coach seems to drive VERY well and I believe that the suspension is stock other than the Sumosprings on the front and the Bilstein shocks I installed soon after I bought it. I don't perceive it needs much help.
I know it has no aftermarket sway bars, track bars or anything of that nature.
My question, has anyone placed these on the front only of their W22 chassis? How much difference did it make?
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2003 34' Georgetown on W20 Workhorse Chassis. UltraRV power mods. Doug Thorley Headers and MagnaFlow 12589 mufflers. Front Sumo Springs, Rear P32 Sumo Springs, UltraRV Track Bar.
1998 Jeep Toad.
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08-02-2018, 04:21 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
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Sumosprings
I recently placed Sumos on the front of my W22 chassis. I think it’s made a huge difference in handling, especially on bumpy roads.
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2003 Newmar Kountry Star
Gas
Workhorse chassis
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08-02-2018, 06:20 PM
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Location: Elk Grove CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tjplue1984
I recently placed Sumos on the front of my W22 chassis. I think it’s made a huge difference in handling, especially on bumpy roads.
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Can you elaborate on the specifics of the "before and after" comparison. A huge difference in terms of what?
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2002 Itasca Suncruiser 35U
Workhorse Chassis
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08-02-2018, 07:26 PM
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Junior Member
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Less play in the steering wheel on rough roads. Less up and down movement. The ride is much smoother.
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Workhorse chassis
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08-02-2018, 07:38 PM
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Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Location: Columbus, IN
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I installed front Sumo Springs some years ago. I think they softened the bump that comes with tar strips, patches, etc. And lessened the noise, as well. Working theory is same as original "like air" snubbers, but I think the different material, and size, makes the compression more progressive. "Results may vary."
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2013 Honda CRV
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08-02-2018, 11:23 PM
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Thanks, I haven't experienced any noticeable steering issues with mine but I do notice pretty sharp bumps from tar strips, patches, etc. They're more noticeable at lower speeds. I experienced some improvement when I fine-tuned my tire pressures after weighing but they're still harsher than I'd like.
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2002 Itasca Suncruiser 35U
Workhorse Chassis
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08-08-2018, 12:02 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Thanks everybody.
Next quetion: Why didn't you install them on the rear?
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2003 34' Georgetown on W20 Workhorse Chassis. UltraRV power mods. Doug Thorley Headers and MagnaFlow 12589 mufflers. Front Sumo Springs, Rear P32 Sumo Springs, UltraRV Track Bar.
1998 Jeep Toad.
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08-08-2018, 05:35 AM
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Sumosprings
I just installed the fronts but haven’t driven it yet. I didn’t do the rears for two reasons, first the installation is a bit more involved and second the fronts are relatively inexpensive so if they don’t work out I am not out a lot of money. Also, not too sure on the rears because they are attached top and bottom and someone recently had them rip in two. Think the theory was the jacks overextended them. They do make a two piece rear, just not for the Workhorse chassis.
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08-09-2018, 09:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vettenuts
I just installed the fronts but haven’t driven it yet. I didn’t do the rears for two reasons, first the installation is a bit more involved and second the fronts are relatively inexpensive so if they don’t work out I am not out a lot of money. Also, not too sure on the rears because they are attached top and bottom and someone recently had them rip in two. Think the theory was the jacks overextended them. They do make a two piece rear, just not for the Workhorse chassis.
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I'm anxious to hear what you notice from the front-only installation.
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2002 Itasca Suncruiser 35U
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08-09-2018, 06:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BCam
I'm anxious to hear what you notice from the front-only installation.
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Hopefully will find out next week when we go to Maine now that my other repairs are done.
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08-10-2018, 08:35 PM
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My rig has had all 4 tires off the ground multiple times with no Sumo failure front or back.
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08-11-2018, 06:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Motor7
My rig has had all 4 tires off the ground multiple times with no Sumo failure front or back.
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This is the thread I was referring to.
http://www.irv2.com/forums/f258/sumo...re-399512.html
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08-11-2018, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
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That was my post. So you know I never raised the tires off the ground. Sumo said the springs were not glued properly. They replaced them no questions asked and gave me the option to replace with the same springs I had or the new two piece spring. Obvious from the pic I went with the new two piece.
Leaving on a two week trip soon so I'll be able to compare the difference between the two designs
Jerry
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08-11-2018, 08:25 PM
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Ahhh, ok. Needless to say when I walked into the Chevy dealership and saw my coach up on the leveling Jacks with no tires underneath it I was a bit surprised.
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