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07-23-2008, 04:21 PM
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Monaco Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Nor'easters Club
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I got home from work today and the Koni's were on the front steps, Thanks John, it was getting ready to rain but I went for it anyway, the drivers side front was a bugger, the old spacers were frose to the bolt, between WD and a torch I got the bolt out of the old shock, one of the spacers I cut with a sawsall took about an hour and a half, funny thing the passanger side took 5 minutes, the bolt was nice and shiny like it was new crome, go figure. The rears were easy, I'll take her for a spin tomorrow.
Thanks for the advise.
Al
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07-23-2008, 04:21 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Nor'easters Club
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Location: Dover NH
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I got home from work today and the Koni's were on the front steps, Thanks John, it was getting ready to rain but I went for it anyway, the drivers side front was a bugger, the old spacers were frose to the bolt, between WD and a torch I got the bolt out of the old shock, one of the spacers I cut with a sawsall took about an hour and a half, funny thing the passanger side took 5 minutes, the bolt was nice and shiny like it was new crome, go figure. The rears were easy, I'll take her for a spin tomorrow.
Thanks for the advise.
Al
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07-23-2008, 04:49 PM
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You are going to enjoy the ride,especially when you encounter the tar strips and bridge approaches.Interesting that you had grief with the L/F shock,my experience was the same except the upper nut almost fell off as there were only two threads for the nut to engage.The OEM shocks had been replaced under warranty and the last guy to work on it was at the WH Dealer.When installing the new bolt,there was a definite alignment issue with the upper and lower bolts(they were not parallel)and required a bit of finesse to install so as not to repeat the thread mangling.
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07-23-2008, 06:55 PM
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Al,
Glad to hear that they made it their safe, you never know with "ooPS"
Report back after you give them a good test drive, I think you will happy with the purchase
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Brazel's RV Performance Center & RV Park
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07-24-2008, 02:40 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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We had our Konis installed a week ago today and we are rather pleased with them. We've been running 95 PSI in our front tires of our 37'4" W-22 class A, but I wonder if the ride can further be enhansed by dropping the fronts down to 88 PSI. Does anyone have an opinion on that? Chuck/Bagman57.
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07-24-2008, 03:01 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bagman57:
Does anyone have an opinion on that? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Chuck/Bagman57, I certainly do.
If you know the actual weights of your front axle you can use the Michelin inflation chart. I would also add +5 psi to that in order to allow a slight margin before the minimum inflation is realized. I am currently running a Pressure Pro and viewing the tires pressures from the inside of the cabin is great!
I run my pressures according to the GAWRs and I can't complain about the ride. My Konis work very well in this regard.
Regarding experimenting with air pressures - go ahead - it's only air BUT do not go below the minimums. You can always air up your tires to the previous air pressures you were running after they cool down.
I have also been pleased with the performance of my Crossfires.
I would try running 90 PSI in the front and see if that makes any difference at all however the difference between 88 and 90 is not that great so go for it! I'm sure you'll be OK.
Here at the GNR one guy told me that according to the Michelin inflation chart on his WGO Model 35A he is running 74 psi in the rears. All I can say is ... How low can you go!
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TST 507, Blue Ox, SMI, Koni FSD, CrossFire
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07-24-2008, 04:55 PM
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I got the coach out for a test ride on the new shocks,, wow what a difference, it's unreal!! So I figured with the money I saved installing them my self I went out and got a 32" Visio HD LCD for the over head, I figure for what I took off in weight with the tube job out of the coach I should beable to drop my front tire pressure by 3 lbs, I think the sag just came out of the roof. I just listed it on ebay under boat anchors.
Love the Koni's.
Jon we got to get together about the UP upgrade.
Al
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07-25-2008, 10:45 AM
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Al,
I love the way you "figure". I do it exactly the same way, ie: I saved "X" dollars doing it myself so I certainly can buy that new "Do-Dad" with that saved money. Your a man I can understand.
Keep up the good work!!
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2002 Newmar Mountain Aire, 37', 3778, W-22, 8.1 Vortac, Ultra Power upgrade, CAI (cold air intake), Taylor wires, colder plugs, Koni shocks.
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07-25-2008, 11:09 AM
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If we could just get the DW to figure the same way!
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07-30-2008, 02:41 PM
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I have the 2006 Itasca 35U/W-22. Checking the Koni website...they offer the "new" FSD shock and they go for about 165 dollars each.
Question 1: Are these "FSD" shocks adjustable as the original Konis? Recommendation on website is to install them adjusted as received..then adjust as desired for ride tune..weight change etc. Has anyone preinstall or postinstall adjusted these for a W-22 ..front or rear?
Question 2: With the oil flow control internal mechanics versus gas charge...does very cold wx affect your ride...stiffen up?
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07-30-2008, 02:50 PM
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Pub,
I installed as delivered, we went up to the Bangor area this past weekend, bunch of shore roads and railroad tracks, all I can say is my coach rides like it never has before. It's quiter, way less sway, the porpesing is gone completly, a set of railroad track with a rise would have been good for a 4 rocker, that's what I call it. As far as cold weather is concerned, I won't be able to answer that one for a while.
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07-30-2008, 04:52 PM
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Pubtym,
Answer #1: The new Koni FSD (Frequency Selective Dampening) are not manually adjustable, they are actually self-adjusting! Within 5 milliseconds of a road surface change these shocks will adjust to better suit the conditions and give you their best performance for that condition. They will also stiffen up around corners to improve handling.
Answer #2: I do not know for sure about cold weather affecting the performance of the shock, I certainly have never heard of that happening. Being up in Washington state we get a lot of customers coming from up north where it does get very cold and I have never had anyone call back with a problem. The biggest difference between the gas and hydraulic operated shock is the rebound and compression. Gas charged shocks are not the best way of going with motorhomes because the weight acting on them makes them more or less a pogo stick.
Any other questions you have don't hesitate to post back, email or call us at the shop!
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Brazel's RV Performance Center & RV Park
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07-30-2008, 04:58 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner Winnebago Owners Club
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JonBrazel:
Pubtym,
Answer #1: The new Koni FSD (Frequency Selective Dampening) are not manually adjustable, they are actually self-adjusting! Within 5 milliseconds of a road surface change these shocks will adjust to better suit the conditions and give you their best performance for that condition. They will also stiffen up around corners to improve handling.
Answer #2: I do not know for sure about cold weather affecting the performance of the shock, I certainly have never heard of that happening. Being up in Washington state we get a lot of customers coming from up north where it does get very cold and I have never had anyone call back with a problem. The biggest difference between the gas and hydraulic operated shock is the rebound and compression. Gas charged shocks are not the best way of going with motorhomes because the weight acting on them makes them more or less a pogo stick.
Any other questions you have don't hesitate to post back, email or call us at the shop! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thanks Jon,... complete answer I was looking for.
Pubtym
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