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05-12-2011, 04:08 PM
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Need to replace my tie rod boots. I am not too keen about using the fork to pop them because I wouldn't want to damage the tie rod end. Standard tie rod pullers seem small. Has anyone had success backing off on the nut and striking knuckle to pop it. Just a little heavier than my pickup.
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05-12-2011, 04:56 PM
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an't answer your question, but there may be some info Here: What size socket is needed to remove the nut on the tie rods? That may help you. Good luck. Ed
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05-12-2011, 08:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rit
Has anyone had success backing off on the nut and striking knuckle to pop it.
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Not unless it was already loose, I don't expect that you are going to move the end by beating on the nut without damaging the stud.
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05-12-2011, 08:48 PM
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It works, back the nut off a few turns and use (2) hammers, one as a backup on opposite side and hit the area around the tapered pin to expand the hole. Tie rod will fall out with no damage. Use a pickle fork if you want to trash the tie rods....
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05-12-2011, 09:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mfire1339
Tie rod will fall out with no damage. Use a pickle fork if you want to trash the tie rods....
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Have you done this on a Workhorse? What would be inappropriate in using the proper tool?
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Do not attempt to disconnect a steering linkage joint by driving a wedge between the joint and the attached part. Seal damage may result which will cause premature failure of the joint.
Use the J 6627-A in order to remove the outer tie rod ball studs from the steering knuckle.
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05-12-2011, 09:10 PM
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Thanks Mike. I know backing off the nut and striking the knuckle works on the the smaller tie rods, just didn't know if it would work on something the size of a Workhorse chassis.
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05-13-2011, 07:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rit
Need to replace my tie rod boots. I am not too keen about using the fork to pop them because I wouldn't want to damage the tie rod end. Standard tie rod pullers seem small. Has anyone had success backing off on the nut and striking knuckle to pop it. Just a little heavier than my pickup.
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Striking the nut will do way more damage than using a pickle fork, as several others have said.
As you have observed, standard pullers and pickle forks are too small - they're made for cars. The space between the forks will not clear the diameter of the stud Workhorse uses. I bought a larger size puller similar to the one shown in the illustration that DriVer posted. It had sufficient spacing between the forks, but the the forks were too thick. After I ground the forks a little thinner, the puller worked well.
Believe me, the joint was tight.
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05-13-2011, 07:58 AM
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Believe me, the joint was tight.
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I agree. I worked on heavy trucks in the Class 6 range and above for 7 years and my experience is that, you are not going to easily break a tie rod end by beating on the stud with a hammer. Take the time to do the job the right way, the first time.  Why struggle (?) when this job can be accomplished in a manner consistent with good practices.
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05-13-2011, 04:04 PM
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Folks I had no intention of beating on the stud or nut. I was referring to hitting the knuckle on the side to get it to drop. Still trying to find a puller such as J 6627A, but no such luck. Might take a shot with a pitman arm puller. They are a little heavier than the automotive tie rod pullers.
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05-13-2011, 06:08 PM
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I replaced my tie rod boots about 3 years ago using the fork and putting new boots on. The new boots lasted about as long as it took me to drive out of the driveway. So I took a tip from this forum and cut a tennis ball in half and then slit each half so I could wrap it around the tie rod and it's been there ever since. And I didn't have to remove the tie rod to do it.
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05-13-2011, 07:29 PM
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Found one: Hands On Tools & Cost Plus Tools
Other suppliers list the item as being OOS.
The tool also doubles as a wheel stud puller. (pusher actually)
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05-14-2011, 07:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rit
Folks I had no intention of beating on the stud or nut. I was referring to hitting the knuckle on the side to get it to drop. Still trying to find a puller such as J 6627A, but no such luck. Might take a shot with a pitman arm puller. They are a little heavier than the automotive tie rod pullers.
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Rit, the method you describe works well. Just use a larger hammer for rapping and backup. I always use my 4 pounder for the backup, and about a 2 pound ball peen for the pounding. Don't be afraid to hit it!  Unless you are a professional mechanic, the cost of the tool versus the number of times you will use it doesn't justify the purchase of it.
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05-14-2011, 07:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dieselclacker
Unless you are a professional mechanic, the cost of the tool versus the number of times you will use it doesn't justify the purchase of it.
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Dieselclacker, Why not try to rent one? Beating on the gear with hammers is not in the maitenance manual.
BUT been there and done that.
I didn't think that I could rent a fuel prressure gauge but I did.
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05-14-2011, 07:22 AM
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I would not hammer the end of the bolt, nut on or off.. I've ruined some things doing it that way.
Using the proper tool ( the Pusher a couple posts up) seems to do the job well, no damage.
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