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06-30-2010, 09:03 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Ford Super Duty Owner
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Tie Rod End Boots
On my W22 chassis built in Dec 04, the tie rod ends are OK but the boots have dry rotted and are split
Is there an after market or other boot that I can replace the bad ones with or do I have to replace the tie rod ends
Thanks,
Preston
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06-30-2010, 09:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by prsmith
On my W22 chassis built in Dec 04, the tie rod ends are OK but the boots have dry rotted and are split
Is there an after market or other boot that I can replace the bad ones with or do I have to replace the tie rod ends
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Preston, You can buy the boots from a NAPA.
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06-30-2010, 10:15 AM
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Hi DriVer,
Thanks for that tip
Would you happen to know the NAPA number? or the after market tie rod ends they would fit? There is almost no support for Workhorse in my part of the world
Preston
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Originally Posted by DriVer
Preston, You can buy the boots from a NAPA.
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06-30-2010, 12:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by prsmith
Would you happen to know the NAPA number? or the after market tie rod ends they would fit? There is almost no support for Workhorse in my part of the world.
Preston
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Yes - From my web site Workhorse Xref - Suspension
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Part # Description Supplier
650-1178 Tie Rod Boots NAPA
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06-30-2010, 05:57 PM
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Dale, I knew you would pick up on this request!
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07-02-2010, 08:48 AM
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Thanks Guys,
You are life savers.
I apologize for asking these simple questions but I will slowly get a handle on resources like Dale's site
Now to see if the Canadian NAPA carries those boots
We had a great Canada day on July 1 - hope you folks enjoy your July 4 celebrations
Preston
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07-05-2010, 08:43 PM
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Hi folks,
I now have the dust boots
Can these be replaced without removing the tie rod end or must I totally remove it?
Thanks
Preston
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07-05-2010, 09:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by prsmith
Can these be replaced without removing the tie rod end or must I totally remove it?
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Preston, You will have to remove the cotter pin, back off on the castellated nut and pop the tie rod end off of the steering knuckle. (You will need a fork and a BIG hammer.)
Clean the end, fit the new dust cover and push the tie rod end back up into the steering knuckle. Tighten the tie rod end up real good. You will observe the end coming back up into its original position. Once tight, look for the opening for the cotter pin. If it's available go for it. If you must, back er' down just a wee bit until you can fit the cotter pin back through the hole. I would also get a new cotter pin.
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07-08-2010, 09:06 AM
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Thank you again for the advice.
My 8500 page Workhorse Service manual, which is current to 1998, says I should torque the castellated nut to 48 ft lbs and then turn it to the next higher torque notch to insert the cotter pin. Is 48 ft-lbs still a valid figure for my W22 chassis built in Dec 04?
By the way is there a more current version of this manual? If so where might I find a copy of it?
Thanks again for your help
You folks are so knowledgeable
Preston
By the way, is there an updated version of the workshop manual
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07-08-2010, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by prsmith
By the way, is there an updated version of the workshop manual
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I have a 2000 something manual and they used to be available on CD from Uptime Parts but I don't see it any longer on the website under "Parts".
I would not disagree with the torque process since it assures a tight fit but many of us wrench slingers jusy have a feel for these things. Mechanics have wrench hands like some drivers have butt dynos!
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07-09-2010, 07:21 AM
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HeHe - my Dad was a mechanic and he had wrench hands also
I got the job done yesterday - most difficult task was removing the cotter pins - I bought a pickle fork and with a few whacks the tied rod was apart - I cleaned the tapereed surfaces and examined for wear - put the boot on and used my little floor jack to lift the bottom half back in place and compress the boot -put on some never seize (probably should not have done that) and torqued the castellated nut to 51 vs 46 ft lbs (due to the lubricated threads)
This is where I found out that the pin hole was too big for 1/8" pin and too small for 5/32 pin - used the 1/8" pin because I had no metric pins and was not inclined to drive 15 miles to get some. Should be OK anyways
Topped the boots up with grease from a hand gun and the job was finished.
$14 for the tool and $11 for the NAPA boots - $25 and about an hour of my time - methinks a shop might have charged a bunch more
Thanks again for all of the advice
Preston
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