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05-23-2011, 10:13 AM
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Ford Super Duty Owner Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: Head of St Margarets Bay,NS,Canada
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I drained my oil thinking I had a spare NAPA filter in my stock - none there. Nearest NAPA is 30 miles away and today is a holiday
So I went up to local corner store who carry Fram and Quaker State
So I got a QS 5 and a Fram HM 5 (High Mileage)
I notice neither manufacturer shows up on Oemy's site
So how do these filters stack up compared to other brands, is the Fram HM worth the doubled price, and would I hurt the engine if I used them for 3k miles?. I have 30 k miles on our rig
Thanks,
Preston
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05-23-2011, 10:36 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Use the Fram.
Dieselclacker
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05-23-2011, 03:33 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
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Quote:
Originally Posted by prsmith
Preston
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prsmith, Ford Super Duty Owner ??? Can you conform this or did you trade for a Workhorse?
We do not see overwhelming endorsements for Fram filters here on iRV2 rather we tend to go with any other manufacturer.
If you have an Advance autoparts see if you can get an equivalent Mobil1 filter.  In the OE size, the filter is model number: M1-111.
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05-23-2011, 03:39 PM
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use the fram,....if you don't have a choice. if you are curious as ti why cut it open afer you use it. it should be ok for the short term though.
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05-23-2011, 05:06 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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I don't think there would be any problem of using the Fram until you can get a better replacement. Nothing says you cannot change filters w/o changeing oil.
The 1 qt Mobil 1 is an M1-302. (for 8.1 Workhorse)
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05-23-2011, 08:44 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Here is a link to a Oil Filter that was posted before GM Truck Central Oil Filter Study
I used the Mobil 1 or M1-302 filter Good Luck JP
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05-24-2011, 05:05 AM
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Ford Super Duty Owner Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DriVer
prsmith, Ford Super Duty Owner ??? Can you conform this or did you trade for a Workhorse?
We do not see overwhelming endorsements for Fram filters here on iRV2 rather we tend to go with any other manufacturer.
If you have an Advance autoparts see if you can get an equivalent Mobil1 filter.  In the OE size, the filter is model number: M1-111.
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First, thanks to everyone for your replies. I will just have to leave the oil out for another day or two until I head into town to find a filter. I wonder how bad Fram really is - their bad rep is almost a mystique.
yeah DriVer, I did trade my Ford a year ago for a Workhorse. I asked a couple of times that the Ford annotation be changed to a WH annotation - guess my requests got lost in cyberspace and then I just forgot about it
So if you could, please.
Thanks
Preston
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05-24-2011, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr JP
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Heh! The study sure pans the AC Delco filter. Seems like the FRam XG5 has the best rating of the bunch (I do not consider price to be important). Makes me wonder about the value of the study if FRAM has such a bad rep
Preston
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05-24-2011, 07:43 AM
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Ford Super Duty Owner Fleetwood Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by prsmith
Heh! The study sure pans the AC Delco filter. Seems like the FRam XG5 has the best rating of the bunch (I do not consider price to be important). Makes me wonder about the value of the study if FRAM has such a bad rep
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You got that right. The study is flawed. Anyone who gives price a higher rate than media surface area or volume of media filter material should be testing something else.
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05-24-2011, 09:14 AM
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Triple E Owners Club
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DON'T USE THE FRAM. Read previous posts on this filter. It won't allow full oil flow at higher rpms especially as it starts to get "dirty".
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05-24-2011, 09:27 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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A few years ago the after market was flooded with fake AC Delco oil filters.
I use AC Delco PF454 oil filters in my 8.1 but purchase them only from the local Chevy dealer.
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05-24-2011, 10:25 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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This study site was posted some time back - HERE
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05-24-2011, 09:21 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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If you can find a WIX at your local auto parts store, buy it. Napa Gold are made by WIX and are about the best you can buy.
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05-25-2011, 05:57 AM
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iRV2 Marketing
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Full-Timers
If you can find a WIX at your local auto parts store, buy it. Napa Gold are made by WIX and are about the best you can buy.
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Please include if you will the " Hastings" oil filter which is also made by the same manufacturer!
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