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05-18-2010, 09:29 AM
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When is someone going to give the consumer a timeline on this issue?Bosch is huge in the brake industry, they have to know exactly how long it will take to produce and ship these calipers. Why are we being kept in the dark here? Legal issues? What is it?
I don`t mean "rumors" leaked at rv shows or rallys or "opinions" posted here.
When will these repairs begin?and please don`t tell me "maybe later this year" or "BE PATIENT"
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05-18-2010, 09:40 AM
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Remember the song "Any Day Now".....
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05-18-2010, 10:56 AM
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I think many will be upset when they figure out how long it will take to get recall done. IMO as long as it is taken to get a start up date. If wh was smart and we all have our opinions on that, They would allow all cert shops to do a brake job. Not rocket science.
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05-18-2010, 11:20 AM
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Alan Segitch, who is the service department head at Workhorse, announced at the April 2010 WH rally in Palm Desert, CA that manufacturing of new calipers was scheduled to begin in July of this year. The first 80,000 (appoximately) units should be delivered to service shops beginning in September. From then on, it is up to the shops to schedule the work.
It is probably a good idea to contact your shop and get your name on the list if you have not already done so. Brazel's RV contacted me months ago to get my name on their list.
Bob, wa7hra
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05-18-2010, 01:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wa7hra
Alan Segitch, who is the service department head at Workhorse, announced at the April 2010 WH rally in Palm Desert, CA that manufacturing of new calipers was scheduled to begin in July of this year. The first 80,000 (appoximately) units should be delivered to service shops beginning in September. From then on, it is up to the shops to schedule the work.
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Bob, If that's the best information that we have then I'm going with that. Thanks.
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05-18-2010, 02:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonman
What is it? I don`t mean "rumors" leaked at rv shows or rallys or "opinions" posted here. When will these repairs begin?and please don`t tell me "maybe later this year" or "BE PATIENT"
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Why not call Bosch? It's been done before and it would appear that you are not going to believe anyone anyway. No one here has a crystal ball so call do a Google search and call. I don't know the number or I would give it to you.
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05-18-2010, 02:12 PM
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It still amazes me that we hear these "high ups" like Mr Alan Segitch making these announcements at a RV Rally, which I would consider totally Unofficial and a Rumor. But yet if these "Unofficial Rumors" are True then why would they not post this on the Workhorse website? It is stated that Mr. Segitch made this announcement in April of this year. Workhorse has the Official Brake Recall Page which they have stated will be updated with the latest info as they get it.
Either Mr Segitch is full of B.S! Or the management who are handling the Brake Recall and managing the "Up To Date" info on the website are incompetent at their jobs and cant get the info out unless the Government forces them to do so. There are to many people looking for work to keep incompetent people on a payroll.
So what is it Workhorse! Is your dept heads that speak at the rally's full of B.S and lies or are you so incompetent that you can not post the truth that is said at the rally's on your official Workhorse Brake Recall website that you stated would have the most up to date info? I bet if you were to call WH they would know nothing of what Mr. Segitch said at the April rally and would not confirm anything he said. This is why anything said at a rally is Pure Rumor and False Info!
IMO Mr. Segitch is just making up what we want to hear to buy more time and Workhorse does not really know for a fact when Bosch is going to have enough units to start the actual recall. If Workhorse was to announce this I think the Government would starting looking at this again and this is not what WH wants. I think we on IR2V know as much as the WH management does.
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05-18-2010, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dezertcamper
........ Workhorse has the Official Brake Recall Page which they have stated will be updated with the latest info as they get it............
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YES SIR, you are so right....and if you went there, you would find a newly added set of Q&A which contains, among other things, the following info:
Q. When will new style brake calipers be available to complete Campaign 50901-C?
A. The production phase will begin shortly and Workhorse will need to accumulate roughly 50% of these parts prior to
launching Campaign 50901-C.You will be notified by mail once the remedy parts are available.
Q. Why is it taking so long to obtain the final remedy for Campaign 50901-C?
A. Workhorse and Bosch have been diligently working on a solution. It took extended evaluations to correctly identify the
failure of the calipers and why the pistons can lock into the bores. Once the problem was identified, Workhorse and Bosch
commenced testing using different piston materials in RV applications which may be stored for extended periods of time
thus causing additional testing and evaluation time. This testing is now complete and Bosch is nearing the production phase.
This new addition to the official resource center is dated "MAY 2010", and I believe that is after the comments made at the April rally.
OBTW, I know Alan personally, and he is NOT a liar.
Ed
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05-18-2010, 08:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edgray
I know Alan personally, and he is NOT a liar.
Ed
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I second that. Alan is a good man and anyone that has met him would say the same thing. It's easy to sit back somewhere remotely out of the way and demean someone's character and sincerity without even meeting the man. I am pleased to call Alan a friend and I am looking forward to seeing him at the Eastern Area Rally in Cape Hatteras.
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05-18-2010, 08:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsr
They would allow all cert shops to do a brake job. Not rocket science.
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All Certified Workhorse Shops are prepared to begin doing the recall on receipt of the parts. So you are telling us would trust a 3rd party shop to fix your brakes after all this time of not trusting anybody?
You can not clear a Federal Campaign unless you have access to the Customer database and the credentials to accomplish same. For the same reasons this is why Toyota is not clearing campaigns through a Jaguar dealer.
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05-18-2010, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jdsr
I think many will be upset when they figure out how long it will take to get recall done. IMO as long as it is taken to get a start up date. If wh was smart and we all have our opinions on that, They would allow all cert shops to do a brake job. Not rocket science.
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jdsr: Which is it??? 
Didn't you recently post in another thread "A workhorse shop took 9 hours to do a brake job on a rear ax alone" and something about how you stood there and watched? Was this the job that immediately preceeded your subsequent repeat failure? If so, I would not go back there, if I were you.
The ASC I went to in Hammond, LA did my rear axle slide pin clean & lube, and replaced the pads, in less than four hours with only one man.  (I watched, and we ate a sandwich together during his lunch break,too. ) Ed
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05-18-2010, 08:39 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DriVer
Why not call Bosch? It's been done before and it would appear that you are not going to believe anyone anyway.
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Could it be because the little boy has cried wolf too many times.
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05-18-2010, 08:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edgray
jdsr: Which is it??? 
Didn't you recently post in another thread "A workhorse shop took 9 hours to do a brake job on a rear ax alone" and something about how you stood there and watched? Was this the job that immediately preceeded your subsequent repeat failure? If so, I would not go back there, if I were you.
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What part of 9 hours didnt you understand. Believe me I didnt go back. Heck you should have gone to drivers shop. Only took 45 minutes to do a rear brake job  . Have a nice day
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05-18-2010, 08:50 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edgray
Q. When will new style brake calipers be available to complete Campaign 50901-C?
A. The production phase will begin shortly and Workhorse will need to accumulate roughly 50% of these parts prior to
launching Campaign 50901-C.You will be notified by mail once the remedy parts are available.
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In other words, No one has a clue!
Except Alan Segitch of course.
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