What about the Brake Rotors offered by the Cryogenics Guys?

[Hitch Man]

Has anyone researched or tried the brake rotors processed by the company that puts the rotors through the special freezing process. Will they last longer? Mine failed with so little mileage on them that I am interested in anything that is out there!

[DriVer]

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Originally Posted by Hitch Man Has anyone researched or tried the brake rotors processed by the company that puts the rotors through the special freezing process. Will they last longer? Mine failed with so little mileage on them that I am interested in anything that is out there!

Are you on a Workhorse, if so what model chassis is it?

[bandirector]

I've seen the same thing advertised for musical instruments. A century ago they sold snake oil to help us deal with our ills. I don't see much difference in the use of freezing something.

[Hitch Man]

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Originally Posted by DriVer Are you on a Workhorse, if so what model chassis is it?

2004 Coachmen W22 Chassis.

[DriVer]

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Originally Posted by Hitch Man 2004 Coachmen W22 Chassis.

I would like to ask, what is it that you are trying to achieve. I have 90,001 miles and have not severely or otherwise cracked a rotor through on my 2003 W22.

The secret about having brakes ..... is not to use them.

[Hitch Man]

I couldn't agree with you more when it comes to driving style. I too believe in using the engine properly to slow the vehicle instead of riding the brakes all the time. We did not purchase this vehicle new, and I do not of course know all of it's history from the first owner, nor do I know how long it sat idle on the lot. What I do know is that at 13,400 miles I took it in for the first look at the brakes and all 4 rotors had cracks. The cracking is apparently not sufficient to be covered and I picked up the tab for the front ones at that time. I will now take it in for the back ones and pick up the tab again but would like to do as much as I can to avoid ever buying rotors for this coach again. That is all I am trying to accomplish and was curious if anyone had any experience or knowledge of the product that I had mentioned in my first post. Thanks for your response I am open to any help. Love the coach, just tired of the brake problem!

[DriVer]

What's the description of this coach and what's the chassis type? It's always nice to start off with year, make and model.

Does this vehicle trailer a vehicle or trailer and how much does it weigh? Is the towed load equipped with an auxiliary brake?

[pkmesser]

Cyrogenic processing is also done on rifle barrels now, by aftermarket people. The supposed advantage is increased life. There are test results that support this idea. Some high end barrel manufactures also offer it as an option on a new barrel. I shoot high intensity loads, with resultant short barrel life, but my last barrel jobs were done before this process became available, and as it would entail barrel removal, have not looked into it further as to cost, etc.
Some of the conditions are the same for brakes, high temperature coupled with a highly abrasive situation.

[RustyJC]

If you want to get into the technical aspects of the cryogenic process and how it affects components such as cast iron brake rotors, you can download a .pdf format article from Heat Treating Progress magazine HERE.

Rusty

[Hitch Man]

Our Coach is a 2004 Coachmen Santara, 37ft, Class A. We sometimes tow a Hyundai Elantra (2500 lbs)(no auxiliary brake). We do not use it from October through May and when we do we travel regularly (every other weekend about 75 miles). We believe that the damage occurred prior to our purchase of the vehicle as it had very little power when we did the test drive. Salesman blamed it on the need for a tune - up, plugs etc. When we returned and drove it again it was fine. We are now thinking that he lubed the pins etc and alleviated the brake drag that had occurred from the vehicle sitting perhaps.

[DriVer]

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Originally Posted by Hitch Man When we returned and drove it again it was fine. We are now thinking that he lubed the pins etc and alleviated the brake drag that had occurred from the vehicle sitting perhaps.

Your coach sound like the usual suspects. What you don't know is how long it sat and what condition the brake fluid and calipers were in at the time. I'm not sure why you had to replace rotors after delivery but this isn't a small rig and towing a 2500 pound toad without auxiliary brakes may have been the catalyst that contributed to the failure of the rotors.

If you have had the recall calipers installed please get an auxiliary brake and you should be OK. Consider also flushing your brake fluid every 2 years or 24,000 miles.

[Hitch Man]

Thank you for your advice - appreciate you taking the time to help us out. Will definitely be able to handle the two things you suggest.

[gg]

Cryogenics applied to transmission parts improved 3x life increase. Running the same engine he typically made it one season. After the cryogenic (-heat treat) he made it 3 seasons.

Racing and the military have the Funds to use it. I think you could buy a new set of rotors and spend less $.

[Hitch Man]

I bet you're right on the expense - have not checked that yet. Thanks for the input though.