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Old 01-22-2017, 11:23 PM   #43
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What are the heat shields made of that they can be toast? Easy to install from the doghouse
The heat shield has a high heat plastic wrapper on the inside of the shield. The sleeve it self in a steel and there's a small spring on the plug side. You simply push the sleeve of the end of the wire that attaches to the spark plug all the way on until it stops. It's pretty easy stuff. Using the end of the wire with the shield, you need to feel a definite snap when it's pushed on and attached to the spark plug.

Yes you can do it from the doghouse. I often do it from inside the wheel wells. Ask Oemy - bring Band-Aids.
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Just work with Larry and Justin will advise you about the fabric that you need if its deficient or missing. Just tell them that Mike sent you.
The last time I told him that it got more expensive, just kidding.
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Just work with Larry and Justin will advise you about the fabric that you need if its deficient or missing. Just tell them that Mike sent you.
It's a 2004 Pace Arrow 37-C if that helps. It dose have a rubber piece that looks like it goes from above the radiator to the area above the motor. Has a small cut out to allow dipstick access.
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It's a 2004 Pace Arrow 37-C if that helps. It dose have a rubber piece that looks like it goes from above the radiator to the area above the motor. Has a small cut out to allow dipstick access.
That piece needs to be as complete as possible and moderately rigid. The original fabric was really flimsy. There should be cutouts for the dipsticks and the ECM & TCM.
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That piece needs to be as complete as possible and moderately rigid. The original fabric was really flimsy. There should be cutouts for the dipsticks and the ECM & TCM.
Thanks, I think it's intact.
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The insulating material on the inside of the sheild fails from to much heat. Best done from under the coach via the wheel well.

From your questions... Have it done!
I will have to have it done, too old and I have emphysema. Hope I can make it home and address this then, need to order the parts first. Not sure who I will get to do it but need the parts first. There was a Workhorse service place at home at one time (Love Chevrolet Co.),but they suck BIG time.
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Depending on the wires they used, that could be the source. Get the Magnum wires from Ultra RV and that will be the end of it. Also, I would install plugs with the 0.045" gap as they are less prone to missing at high RPM. Last recommendation, if you were driving through rain when this occurred the filter and MAF may be wet. Replace the filter, clean the MAF and seal the hood and filter box.
Not sure what you're calling high RPM, its while running down the interstate but when it is under a load (pulling up a hill). The first time I guess it was the wires but I had them change the air filter also. This time when I was adding oil after an oil change I spilled some oil on the inside lip of the air intake tube so I sprayed some gunk (degreaser) and hit the inside of the tube lip with the house and washed it off. I held the drain tube open. My bad I guess. I hate to show my ignorance but I'm not a mechanic. The MAF I assume is the mass air filter but where is it and do you replace it or can It be cleaned, I would rather change it. This is a Workhorse so don't know about sealing the hood, I guess I could block the input but I though it was a cold air intake. I don't have a problem with whatever needs to be done just want the damn thing fixed. Don't get me wrong I don't want to spend the money for the hell of it. Oemy was talking about "heat shield" any info on that? Thanks to everyone for your help.

The Mass Air Flow sensor is located by the air filter on the wall of the passenger side front tire wheel opening. If you raise the front end and turn the tires you can access the air filter housing.

After the air goes through the filter it immediately hits the MAF sensor that determines the amount of air entering the engine.

I've cleaned some by removing the air filter and, with the engine running, spray MAF cleaner into the air line. It will slow the engine down as you do so.

Or you can remove the MAF from the air line and spray it on your workbench. Don't touch the MAF sensor grid.

MAF cleaner is about $10.
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As stated in the prior post, make sure you use the specific MAF cleaner. It is made specifically for electronics and won't leave any residue or harm the wires/sensor in the MAF. Don't use Gunk or other carb cleaners and such.
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From an old race team member. This will work to put cooling air in engine compartment:

https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...2150/overview/

https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...2140/overview/
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From an old race team member. This will work to put cooling air in engine compartment:

https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...2150/overview/

https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...2140/overview/
Thanks for the info. Will use this.
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As stated in the prior post, make sure you use the specific MAF cleaner. It is made specifically for electronics and won't leave any residue or harm the wires/sensor in the MAF. Don't use Gunk or other carb cleaners and such.
Thanks, I learned what the MAF is today.
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I talked to Larry at Larry's Auto Clinic today (Myrtle Beach) and he said the heat shields are not stock on the 8.1 but are on the 454. Also he said that he only uses plug wires that are OEM. He said he would install after market if I get them. He also said if I have water in the filter it should not hurt the MAF sensor. So I picked up an air filter and will see if I can get them installed. I'll order the parts and have them installed at home, if I can make it home. Thanks to all for your help.
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Well I beg to differ with Larry... On the Workhorse version of the 8.1 the heat sheilds are std and required. Without them your stock OEM wires won't last. They were on my 2004.
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I will differ with Larry on the MAF as well. Once it get wet from a dirty filter, it should be cleaned. Think I might replace Larry myself.
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