Workhorse 24K or 22K on 37'MH????

[TomR]

Hello All...looking at a couple of real nice full paint 2005-2008 Allegro Bay Workhorse chassis.

I am curious how many 37db owners (or others) here on the site and what your thoughts are on the 37db.

One key question is...I seem to remember that having the 24K Workhorse was an option and I think "some" said that the coach was a bit low on NCC with the 22K chassis?

In any case...is this a good model to target for a slightly used "first" Class A (or RV for that matter)...does it make sense to look for W-24 on say 35'+ gas MH Tiffin or others?

What should one look for for wear issues or lack of care/maintenance issues...what would likely need to be done on a 4-6 year old coach?

Thanks...Tom R

P.S. I probably should also post on Workhorse site...TMR

[DriVer]

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Originally Posted by TomR One key question is...I seem to remember that having the 24K Workhorse was an option and I think "some" said that the coach was a bit low on NCC with the 22K chassis?

TomR, The W24 was designed to allow owners to carry more and haul more. This isn't just another numbers game either.

The W24 has more final drive gearing to allow you to haul that weight. The transmission is upgraded to a 2000 series. The brakes are upgraded to the Quadraulic 4 piston calipers. The frame itself has an additional cross member to stiffen the chassis.

The 24 builds on the W22 series rig by up-rating its weight carrying capability by not only allowing it to carry the weight but to efficiently accelerate the load down the road with the ability to stop that load on demand.

If the W22 that you are looking at has an acceptable NCC and meets your need, I would go with it. Obviously the W24 would give you more and it will cost a bit more to buy however it may be required to accommodate the weight of the vehicle that you are looking at.

[dieselclacker]

DriVer, Ed, anybody, using the chassis ID number, how do you distinguish between a W-22 and W-24 chassis?

Dieselclacker

[DriVer]

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Originally Posted by dieselclacker DriVer, Ed, anybody, using the chassis ID number, how do you distinguish between a W-22 and W-24 chassis? Dieselclacker

Dieselclacker, The VIN# starts off like this: 5B4MPA. The A=W24.

[TomR]

Thanks Driver...approximately how much "extra" was the W-24 option. I know each mfg may have had a different "up charge"...but what is your best approximation. As I look at use 35'-38' Class A gas I really think I want to find a W-24 instead of W-22. Thanks...Tom R

P.S. What was the NCC on your W-22? If I remember correctly the mfg kept increasing the dry weight leaving some of the pre-W-24 coaches with very little NCC?

Thanks...Tom R

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Originally Posted by DriVer TomR, The W24 was designed to allow owners to carry more and haul more. This isn't just another numbers game either. The W24 has more final drive gearing to allow you to haul that weight. The transmission is upgraded to a 2000 series. The brakes are upgraded to the Quadraulic 4 piston calipers. The frame itself has an additional cross member to stiffen the chassis. The 24 builds on the W22 series rig by up-rating its weight carrying capability by not only allowing it to carry the weight but to efficiently accelerate the load down the road with the ability to stop that load on demand. If the W22 that you are looking at has an acceptable NCC and meets your need, I would go with it. Obviously the W24 would give you more and it will cost a bit more to buy however it may be required to accommodate the weight of the vehicle that you are looking at.

[DriVer]

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Originally Posted by TomR Thanks Driver...approximately how much "extra" was the W-24 option.

TomR, there was approximately a $5K to $6K upcharge for the 24.

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As I look at use 35'-38' Class A gas I really think I want to find a W-24 instead of W-22.

Of the several dozens of 35 foot models, very few if any were built on a W24. You will see the W25 typically on rigs of 37 feet but less than 40 feet.

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P.S. What was the NCC on your W-22? If I remember correctly the mfg kept increasing the dry weight leaving some of the pre-W-24 coaches with very little NCC?

I have a 38'11" rig and my NCC is 1,784 pounds. When were traveling full time we were right at the GVW and often exceeded it by 8.3 pounds or so if I bought too many gallons of water!

[TomR]

Thanks Driver...did WH ever consider any replacement for the 8.1 to continue to make the gas chassis? They sure had the market share and it seemed as though they would just keep developing and refining the gas W series chassis?

Is there any thought/plan at WH to get back into the complete gas chassis lineup?

I guess the Ford W-53 is the only choice at this point...other than slightly used

As a WH "guy" with what I imagine is very good knowledge of the Ford gas MH chassis...how does the current higher weight Ford compare with the WH W-22 and W-24 series? I have heard that Ford made some improvements...is it now reasonably "equivalent" to the no longer produced W-22 and W-24 WH??

What are the Ford's good and bad points vs the WH??? BTW...is there a 24K Ford?

Thanks Driver...I always enjoy and benefit from your knowledge and willingness to educate the "uninformed"

Tom R in Two Harbors, MN



Thanks...Tom R

[dieselclacker]

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Originally Posted by DriVer Dieselclacker, The VIN# starts off like this: 5B4MPA. The A=W24.

Thanks for the info DriVer.

Dieselclacker

[pkmesser]

Tom R;
I have a 37 ft on a W22. We are at 22,000 when loaded for travel, & grandkids aboard. I haven't seen any issues with being at the weight limit. However, if I were doing it over again, and had a choice, I would opt for the W24. The higher ratio rear end would help on pulling, and the combined wt limt of 30 K would allow me to tow my 4WD pickup. (quite frankly, when we bought the unit new, I didn't know the difference. Driver, where were you then, to not get me straight?)

[millsrv]

I guess that we have one of the few 35' coaches that happens to have the W24 chassis. We did not order this coach, but found it new on a dealers lot. I simply wanted a Workhorse Chassis so the W24 was a lucky find. The W22 was what I expected, finding this coach with this chassis was simply good fortune. The Winnebago Weight Sheet posted in the closet says the Cargo Carrying Capacity (CCC) is 3702 pounds.

[DriVer]

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Originally Posted by millsrv I The Winnebago Weight Sheet posted in the closet says the Cargo Carrying Capacity (CCC) is 3702 pounds.

So you can bring your bowling ball collection!