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DriVer · 03-11-2010, 03:59 PM

Workhorse delivers first commercial vehilces with 6.0L Gasoline Engines

Check it out .... let's discuss.

TandW · 03-11-2010, 04:56 PM

As things rotate full-cycle, historically, now again we shall have available for purchase a mess of downsized technology that no-one really wants. We back-pedaled in the '70's. Guess it's time to do it again! Good luck!!

TandW · 03-11-2010, 05:18 PM

I intend to leave behind a so-called carbon footprint every bit as large as that of BRONTOSAURUS. And they didn't give me much time for the chore!!

TandW · 03-11-2010, 05:25 PM

Driver, is this new mill gonna have any torque left over for passing? I sure do think it's gonna be buzzy being wound up tight all the time. What say you?

edgray · 03-11-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DriVer

Workhorse delivers first commercial vehilces with 6.0L Gasoline Engines

Check it out .... let's discuss.

Thanks, Mike. Since the chassis in your link is not an RV chassis, I'm thinking we won't have much to discuss except to speculate "when or if " the 6.0L gas engine will be offered for RV use. IF it does become an RV chassis application, then I'll bet our members will have plenty to say.

Personally, I'd love to have the chance to buy a 22,000 GVWR "UFO" chassis, and want to know what are the HP & TQ ratings for the 6.0L engine Workhorse will be using. Thanks, ED

TandW · 03-11-2010, 05:41 PM

Ed, I also would entertain thoughts of purchasing a UFO. My thought is that the undercarriage wouldn't suffer from "heat soak" in the way a standard chassis does. However, the fan clutch problem has tended to sour my thoughts somewhat. Good luck!!

TandW · 03-11-2010, 06:16 PM

Well, if they start building underpowered gas class A rigs, then I suppose our older rigs will regain some of the value they have lost. As a lung patient it is bad enough when I have to follow a diesel rig. Good luck!!

Gregg · 03-12-2010, 07:54 AM

I'm very happy I have my 8.1

DriVer · 03-12-2010, 08:27 AM

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As a lung patient it is bad enough when I have to follow a diesel rig. Good luck!!

TandW, I thought your last was remarkable. It is going to pass that diesel vehilces equipped with 2010 emmission control devices will actually expell on the average cleaner air than the surrounding metropolitan environment.

RocketDork · 03-12-2010, 08:30 AM

I'm curious, will it have a blower on it? Or a Turbo? Something to increase the torque?

Is this from the LS series of engines? I know the press release talks about the use in UPS vehicles, but I didn't see any information specific to the engine other than its a 6.0L

The use of the Alison Trans implies the torque is greater than the 4L85 series of transmissions will handle.

DriVer · 03-12-2010, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RocketDork

I'm curious, will it have a blower on it? Or a Turbo? Something to increase the torque?

The best rumor I have is that the engine will be equipped with a Superchanger.

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The use of the Allison Trans implies the torque is greater than the 4L85 series of transmissions will handle.

I'm not at all sure how many 4L85E transmissions GM can deliver nowadays since the MDT products have been canceled. I believe the Allison is used because they can and it could be a requirement set forward by UPS ???

If they are supporting a GVWR of 20,500 (+) pounds "that's why" they need the Allison for GVWR reasons as a 4L85E is not rated for the weight.

TandW · 03-15-2010, 05:41 PM

Driver, it remains that Diesel gensets pass heavy particulate emissions into their environs. And Diesel emissions aren't currently measured on any grades that I know of. The trucking industry has had to cease idling, most often in the countryside where most fuel stops and terminals are located. But inner-city transit vehicles idle 24-7 until brought in for repairs. A lot of this publicly owned equipment couldn't pass the inspections required of privately owned vehicles. I cannot live in the city or overnight in a yard full of diesels. The least potent poison for me is the gas engine. Thanks!!

DriVer · 03-15-2010, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TandW

Driver, it remains that Diesel gensets pass heavy particulate emissions into their environs. And Diesel emissions aren't currently measured on any grades that I know of. The trucking industry has had to cease idling, most often in the countryside where most fuel stops and terminals are located. But inner-city transit vehicles idle 24-7 until brought in for repairs. A lot of this publicly owned equipment couldn't pass the inspections required of privately owned vehicles. I cannot live in the city or overnight in a yard full of diesels. The least potent poison for me is the gas engine. Thanks!!

TandW, Although no one is subscribing to breathing in tail pipe emissions from diesel engines, the tail pipe emission discharge for 2010 calls for NOx emissions to be 0.20 g/bhp/-hr and having a PM of 0.01 g/bhp-hr.

A machine running in this configuration in mid-town Manhattan will actually be cleaning the surrounding air.

Now in regard to diesel engine gensets I'm not at all certain that those machines have any emission controls other than possible EGR but they will definitely be putting out more emissions than the main engine.

Stop engine idling at trucks stops also save millions of gallons of fuel per year which I expect is significant benefit.

vacation on wheels · 03-15-2010, 08:13 PM

I bought the new 2010 Camaro, and I chose the v6, a 3.6L motor with a lot of pop (304 hp, 272tq)! Believe me you can build a smaller, more fuel efficient engine with a lot of power. Technology has done wonders for engine characteristics. That little v6 has forged connecting rods and crank and gets 29 highway mpg in a 3800 lb car!! Direct injection seems to be the future for gas engines, and these little motors haven't been supercharged or turbo'd yet. Then you will easily see horsepower in the 425 range, maybe torque in the 375 to 400 range. What does our 8.1L put out? 340 horses and 375torque??? High quality blocks and internal components are used and you'll get lots of trouble-free miles. And no more "piston slap" issues using higher quality parts with tight tolerances. The future looks bright you guys!