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08-27-2006, 03:28 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
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Location: Conway, SC
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Workhorse UFO Platforms Specifications
GVWR 26000
GCWR 30000
CURB WEIGHT 7350
Engine: (Universal Fuel Option)
<LI> GM Vortec 8.1L V8 gas engine, 340 HP @4200RPM and 455 lbs/ft@3200RPM
<LI> International Maxxforce 7, 2007 Emission compliant diesel, n/a HP/Torque final variant (fall 07)
Tranmission:
<LI> Allison 2000 Series 6-Speed Automatic, TGB, Synthetic Fluid, 5yr-200000 mile warranty.
<LI> Standard Ahrens/Workhorse Touch Pad Shifter
Capacities:
GAWRF -- 9500
GAWRR -- 17500
Wheelbase Selections:
208, 228, 242, 262
Suspension:
<LI> Proprietary Hendrickson system w/ front mounted mono-leaf springs and sway bar characteristics integrated into the front axle, Bilstein shocks.
<LI> Rear axle; coil springs, trailing arms, Torque Box, Bilstein shocks
Rear Axle Ratio:
6.17
Tires/Wheels
<LI> Tires: Michelin XRV 255/80R22.5
<LI> Wheels: 22.5 x 7.5"ť Steel or optional polished aluminum
Brakes:
Meritor WABCO HPB Quadhydraulic, 4-Wheel Disk, 4 Channel ABS
Steering:
55? Wheel Cut
Fuel Tank:
100 Gallons
Steering Wheel:
18"ť custom vinyl or optional leather wrapped.
Instrument Cluster:
Gauges with Trip Computer
Pedals:
Adjustable pedals (3"ť adjustment)
Frame Rail
50,000 psi constant section featuring huck bolt fasteners
Roadside Assistance:
5 years 100,000 miles WCF, transferable
Customer Toll Free: 877-946-7731
Bulleted items on the UFO include and are not limited to:
"˘ Wide Open Cockpit
"˘ Generator In Front
"˘ Shorter Driveshaft
"˘ Unitized Cool Pack Below Floor Level
"˘ Sure-Stopping Brakes
"˘ Universal Fuel Option
"˘ State-of-The-Art Suspension System
"˘ Industry Leading 6 Speed Allison w/ TGB
"˘ Smart "WISE"ť Circuitry
"˘ Adjustable pedals
"˘ Over Sized Tires & Optional Polished Aluminum Wheels
"˘ Standard Ahrens Touch Pad Shifter
"˘ 18 inch Steering Wheel
"˘ 55? Wheel Cut
"˘ Pass Through Storage Options
"˘ 100 Gallon Fuel Tank
"˘ Huck Bolted Throughout
"˘ Shielded Hoses, Pipes and Wires.
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08-27-2006, 03:28 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Conway, SC
Posts: 23,641
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Workhorse UFO Platforms Specifications
GVWR 26000
GCWR 30000
CURB WEIGHT 7350
Engine: (Universal Fuel Option)
<LI> GM Vortec 8.1L V8 gas engine, 340 HP @4200RPM and 455 lbs/ft@3200RPM
<LI> International Maxxforce 7, 2007 Emission compliant diesel, n/a HP/Torque final variant (fall 07)
Tranmission:
<LI> Allison 2000 Series 6-Speed Automatic, TGB, Synthetic Fluid, 5yr-200000 mile warranty.
<LI> Standard Ahrens/Workhorse Touch Pad Shifter
Capacities:
GAWRF -- 9500
GAWRR -- 17500
Wheelbase Selections:
208, 228, 242, 262
Suspension:
<LI> Proprietary Hendrickson system w/ front mounted mono-leaf springs and sway bar characteristics integrated into the front axle, Bilstein shocks.
<LI> Rear axle; coil springs, trailing arms, Torque Box, Bilstein shocks
Rear Axle Ratio:
6.17
Tires/Wheels
<LI> Tires: Michelin XRV 255/80R22.5
<LI> Wheels: 22.5 x 7.5"ť Steel or optional polished aluminum
Brakes:
Meritor WABCO HPB Quadhydraulic, 4-Wheel Disk, 4 Channel ABS
Steering:
55? Wheel Cut
Fuel Tank:
100 Gallons
Steering Wheel:
18"ť custom vinyl or optional leather wrapped.
Instrument Cluster:
Gauges with Trip Computer
Pedals:
Adjustable pedals (3"ť adjustment)
Frame Rail
50,000 psi constant section featuring huck bolt fasteners
Roadside Assistance:
5 years 100,000 miles WCF, transferable
Customer Toll Free: 877-946-7731
Bulleted items on the UFO include and are not limited to:
"˘ Wide Open Cockpit
"˘ Generator In Front
"˘ Shorter Driveshaft
"˘ Unitized Cool Pack Below Floor Level
"˘ Sure-Stopping Brakes
"˘ Universal Fuel Option
"˘ State-of-The-Art Suspension System
"˘ Industry Leading 6 Speed Allison w/ TGB
"˘ Smart "WISE"ť Circuitry
"˘ Adjustable pedals
"˘ Over Sized Tires & Optional Polished Aluminum Wheels
"˘ Standard Ahrens Touch Pad Shifter
"˘ 18 inch Steering Wheel
"˘ 55? Wheel Cut
"˘ Pass Through Storage Options
"˘ 100 Gallon Fuel Tank
"˘ Huck Bolted Throughout
"˘ Shielded Hoses, Pipes and Wires.
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03 Adventurer 38G, Workhorse W22
F&R Track Bars, Safety+ , Ultrapower, Taylor Extremes, SGII
TST 507, Blue Ox, SMI, Koni FSD, CrossFire
RV/MH Hall of Fame - Lifetime Member
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08-27-2006, 03:46 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Central Valley, California
Posts: 1,747
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Hmmmmm Gas engine in the back.....
Does that mean it will be Front Wheel Drive?
OK OK sorry I just had to ask and have some humor at the front....
Cause I am sure there are going to be a lot of NaSayers....
Me personally I think it's an idea who's time has come.......
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08-27-2006, 04:15 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Conway, SC
Posts: 23,641
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LeeB:
Does that mean it will be Front Wheel Drive?
OK OK sorry I just had to ask and have some humor at the front.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Thanks for sharing your humor with us. Check back often because were going to be putting up a lot of information about the UFO especially after the first round of test drives in Hershey, PA.
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09-02-2006, 07:42 AM
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: La Crescenta, CA USA
Posts: 270
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DriVer
I think the UFO idea is great. The biggest complaint I have on my present MH is the engine noise. Putting it in the rear would be great.
One question, why is the rear end gear ration so high or low depending on how you describe it.
George
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09-02-2006, 08:23 AM
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Oakhurst, N.J.
Posts: 1,481
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Mike, when you posted gauges on the IP, does that mean that WH has wisely deep sixed the LCD IP...
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09-04-2006, 01:51 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
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Location: Conway, SC
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Captain Bud:
... does that mean that WH has wisely deep sixed the LCD IP... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>The UFO is using the current version of the Actia IP however there is a new IP in the works which should be coming on line very soon.
The new IP has a 33% or so larger Command Center viewing area and many more pixels per inch for greater character detail. The IP also features 3 user selectable back ground colors. The new IP will look different that the current build however I haven't seen the final release as of yet.
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09-04-2006, 02:03 PM
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Oakhurst, N.J.
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Gee, I'm sorry to hear that. I would think that with all the problems and complaints regarding the IP that WH would come up with a more user friendly IP. If it must be a sophisticated offering, why not make it LED that the majority of consumers (seniors) can see. Mike you can debate this to the grave , but this is not the way to go. If Ford can do it , why can't WH do the same.... Bud
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09-04-2006, 04:58 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Captain Bud:
..... why not make it LED that the majority of consumers (seniors) can see. Mike you can debate this to the grave ... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Cap, Please don't shoot the messenger! Not going to debate it at all it is what it is.
The new IP will be more visible because it's going to be physically bigger. Adding more pixels per square inch is like turning a 560 scan line TV into Hi-Def. You are going to be able to see the characters at all times sun or not and that should turn things around.
Let's take a look at the new IP before we condemn it.
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09-20-2006, 05:48 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lower Alabama
Posts: 338
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DriVer,
Is the UFO rear-mount radiator only? I'm guessing so.
Also, I would imagine that the RDP chassis will continue in the product line for the forseeable future (though the 28000 GVWR version may be in jeopardy).
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Mad Scientist and Principal Operator of 2008 Newmar Ventana 3933
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09-23-2006, 06:27 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mahlon:
Is the UFO rear-mount radiator only? I'm guessing so. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes that's right. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I would imagine that the RDP chassis will continue in the product line for the foreseeable future (though the 28000 GVWR version may be in jeopardy). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't believe the R-Series has anything to worry about. Although the 28,000 GVWR variant appears to be close in performance to the 26,000 UFO the 40,000 GCWR of the R-Series RDP makes a pretty good case as to why WCC will most likely retain the lineup the way it is.
Performance wise WCC has stated that the UFO can compete well against 28K RDPs in diveability and performance. Tow rating wise the 40K GCWR of the R-Series is very significant if that's important to the owner.
Personally I have only seen or driven the 32K R-Series variants.
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09-25-2006, 02:21 AM
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Senior Member
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DriVer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mahlon:
Is the UFO rear-mount radiator only? I'm guessing so. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes that's right. <snip> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ah, well, I was in a hurry & so wasn't clear: I meant rear-mount as opposed to side mount.
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Mad Scientist and Principal Operator of 2008 Newmar Ventana 3933
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09-25-2006, 02:47 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mahlon:
Ah, well, I was in a hurry & so wasn't clear: I meant rear-mount as opposed to side mount. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>There wasn't any talk nor is there any information about the UFO having an option side-mount cool pack.
Looking at the fan, dam and cool pack you can see how well integrated the components are. The fan is recessed in the dam. The dam is a continuous cone shaped enclosure terminating on the rear of the cool pack. The direction of flow is outward through the cool pack.
From the original test beds, WCC found that they had to reduce the size of the cool pack because the engine wasn't achieving an ideal operating range. It was always too cool. The current cool pack is a layered radiator design and there aren't any other coolers sandwiched between one another. Both transmission and coolant lines run horizontally through the same cool pack and receive the same flow.
The single 18" fan augmented A/C condenser is mounted forward on an angle slightly in front of the front axle and behind the generator in the coolest air flow area possible under the chassis. Personally used under test drive conditions the dash mounted A/C was "cold".
From its inception the UFO was designed to overcome the previous rear gas cooling failures and Workhorse engineering certainly got it done.
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09-26-2006, 03:39 PM
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Question, hasn't the rear gasser been done before? And the engine overheating caused it
be dropped. What will the UFO offer that it's predecessor lacked.
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