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08-19-2014, 03:14 PM
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Location: San Antonio, Texas
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Air bags...
has anyone put air bags on all 4 corners with individual controls?
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Bobby & Hope
1999 Allegro Bay 34 w/ slide Ford v10. 2014 Eze tow dolly w/ a Mazda 5
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08-19-2014, 07:09 PM
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Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Lowell, Arkansas
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Yes I installed them on our 1999 but I put a "Y" in the fronts and the backs.
I got their air compressor with the gauges and controls mounted in the dash. When you added air it either filled the fronts or the backs. I installed it as they thought you should. It is used to balance your load and to keep the coach level. As long as you don't have a spring sag it works fine.
Now that I am older and wiser, well at least older I know that their may be times when you'd want to have one side or one corner different than the others. When I install them in the MH this time I'm not going to buy the compressor. That's just way to much $$$ for something that you'll not use very often. I'm going to run all four lines from the air bags to one location probably inside a compartment and where I'll have my portable air compressor. If I need to check or adjust I can do it all from one location. If they need to be different from side to side in case I get a weak spring I can also do that. I don't think once you set the air for your coaches ride comfort that it's worth the expense to get their compressor set up. Once it's set that should be it.
We had the air bags for about 9 years and I never had any leaks from them at all.
TeJay
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08-19-2014, 09:51 PM
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Senior Member
Damon Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Sacramento, California
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This is what I am doing right now I have the fronts on next is the back then mount tank and compressor and then hook up to the gauge panel which is a four corner setup I sure hope I get what I want out of them
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Why wait for retirement enjoy life now !!!!!!!!!!
Me , DW, 2 kids and Kasey 8 year old yellow lab
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08-20-2014, 05:34 AM
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Location: San Antonio, Texas
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The main reason is because my coach leans to the passenger side. I have moved everything that I can to the drivers side compartments and even moved stuff inside. I think that just too much stuff was installed on that side.
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1999 Allegro Bay 34 w/ slide Ford v10. 2014 Eze tow dolly w/ a Mazda 5
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08-20-2014, 07:32 AM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: Montgomery, AL
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I have the Firestone Ride-Rites on the rear only. It has helped to level the coach and the ride seems better. We are leaving this weekend for the beach, I want to experiment with the pressure. We have a pancake compressor and can make adjustments pretty easily. I am glad to read TeJay's post that once satisfied he leaves them alone, I opted not to buy the on board compressor functionality due to $$$ but was concerned about what to do when parked...
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'99 Fleetwood Bounder 34V/ F-53/ V-10
TST 507 Flow Thru tpms; CHF; Safe-T-Plus; UltraTrac rear bar; Koni's; Ride-Rite Rear Bags
FMCA F438950
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08-20-2014, 06:02 PM
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Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: Lowell, Arkansas
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AUPOP,
Here's something else that I forgot to mention concerning installing a "Y" to both fronts or rears. When they are connected together when one is compressed hitting a bump what happens to the pressure??? It goes into the other bag. You hit a bump, the coach moves down compresses the left rear bag and that air rushes into the right rear bag and lifts the coach. It actually amplifies the rocking and rolling of the two air bags. OK now what?? Well you can isolate each bag so they don't affect each other as you travel. Or they actually sell a check valve (they were $100 at one time) which will isolate each bag. I'm going to do as I said earlier and run a separate line to each bag.
maveric65 will have the ideal setup with the on-board compressor and a 4 corner set up. Way to go. I didn't know they had that set up.
TeJay
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08-20-2014, 07:29 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
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I have Kelderman system on the front of 2015 Winn 35g. Separate valves. Manual wits hoarder valves in engine compartment.
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08-21-2014, 01:14 AM
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That should read "schrader" valve. Auto correct does strange things.
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08-21-2014, 05:36 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: texas
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Tjay I was going to say that I would not run left and right side together think what happens when you go into a curve
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08-21-2014, 06:57 AM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: Montgomery, AL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TeJay
AUPOP,
Here's something else that I forgot to mention concerning installing a "Y" to both fronts or rears. When they are connected together when one is compressed hitting a bump what happens to the pressure??? It goes into the other bag. You hit a bump, the coach moves down compresses the left rear bag and that air rushes into the right rear bag and lifts the coach. It actually amplifies the rocking and rolling of the two air bags. OK now what?? Well you can isolate each bag so they don't affect each other as you travel. Or they actually sell a check valve (they were $100 at one time) which will isolate each bag. I'm going to do as I said earlier and run a separate line to each bag.
maveric65 will have the ideal setup with the on-board compressor and a 4 corner set up. Way to go. I didn't know they had that set up.
TeJay
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We put the bags on the rear only, and we air each one up individually. The option of running a Y was offered, but we decided to go this way...glad I did now. Looking forward to getting it out this weekend
Thanks for the advice
Bruce
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Bruce and Karen
'99 Fleetwood Bounder 34V/ F-53/ V-10
TST 507 Flow Thru tpms; CHF; Safe-T-Plus; UltraTrac rear bar; Koni's; Ride-Rite Rear Bags
FMCA F438950
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08-21-2014, 07:22 AM
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Damon Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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maveric65 will have the ideal setup with the on-board compressor and a 4 corner set up. Way to go. I didn't know they had that set up.
TeJay[/QUOTE]
Here is a pic of control panel with dual gauges and 2 needles in each gauge and the 4 air valve paddles for individual control
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2008 Damon Daybreak 3135,F53,2011 CR-V toad SMI Stay in Play Duo
Why wait for retirement enjoy life now !!!!!!!!!!
Me , DW, 2 kids and Kasey 8 year old yellow lab
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08-21-2014, 09:27 AM
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Location: San Antonio, Texas
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Where did you get that control panel? It looks perfect
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Bobby & Hope
1999 Allegro Bay 34 w/ slide Ford v10. 2014 Eze tow dolly w/ a Mazda 5
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08-21-2014, 12:57 PM
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Damon Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by r00ster
Where did you get that control panel? It looks perfect
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I got it off eBay very nice and ready to go just plug in your air lines
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2008 Damon Daybreak 3135,F53,2011 CR-V toad SMI Stay in Play Duo
Why wait for retirement enjoy life now !!!!!!!!!!
Me , DW, 2 kids and Kasey 8 year old yellow lab
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08-21-2014, 06:57 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Quick question to all that installed after market air bags. I have 97 Fleetwood on the F-53 chassis. Rides like a hay wagon. Will the air bags improve my ride? Which product do you recommend. Easiest to install, etc.
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