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Old 12-10-2014, 06:28 PM   #1
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Bigger Ford RV chassis' in the future?

Ford is supposed to start making their bigger 2 ton trucks (F-650 & F-750)them selves again (in Avon Ohio I heard)
there is a possibility that we might see Ford make em a bit bigger than they do now. ??

If this is the sort of thing you might want a few years down the road an email or 2 wouldn't hurt.
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Old 12-11-2014, 06:10 AM   #2
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I would much rather see a diesel engine in the same F53 chassis than a larger, heavier chassis being pulled by a gas engine.
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Old 12-11-2014, 08:21 AM   #3
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I would much rather see a diesel engine in the same F53 chassis than a larger, heavier chassis being pulled by a gas engine.
These F-650s and F-750 have the 6.7L Ford diesel (& I think the 8.3L Cummins diesel) as options.
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Old 12-13-2014, 08:32 AM   #4
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I have always wondered by the F650 & F750 are not used in the Super C market.
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Old 12-13-2014, 12:18 PM   #5
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I would like to see Ford build a rear engine chassis similar to the workhorse UFO with a gas or diesel engine option and maybe even include air suspension to the chassis.

Just wishful thinking...
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The F53 goes up to 26,000lb GVWR. That is equal to the F650 and the max rating for many state's basic driver's license.
2015 Ford F-650-750 Work Trucks | View Full Specification Library | Ford.com
The F750 has a GVWR up to 37,000lb, so that is Diesel Pusher territory.

A Front Engine Diesel (FRED) has always been available (from Freightliner) but there are currently no RV makers interested.
http://freightlinerchassis.com/RV-Ch...enu-id-91.html

So while a Diesel in the F53 or a Ford MDT chassis for an RV might sound like a good idea, I doubt there are any coming.

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Old 12-15-2014, 08:32 AM   #7
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I cant see Ford doing it either, not as long as theres a market as big as it is for the multi use F53.
They put a rear engine in & it will only be an RV. Ford probably wont take that chance.

Now if was something 95% of the public somehow could afford, maybe yes. Motor homes are in the stick & brick house price range, been like that for years & if the kids coming up today are in their right minds, that class c or a not in their plans.
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Old 12-17-2014, 12:02 PM   #8
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I would much rather see a diesel engine in the same F53 chassis than a larger, heavier chassis being pulled by a gas engine.
I don't like the idea of a diesel in the same chassis as weight will effect the GVW.I would rather see a heavier chassis with a diesel.
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I cant see Ford doing it either, not as long as theres a market as big as it is for the multi use F53.
They put a rear engine in & it will only be an RV. Ford probably wont take that chance.
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I'm with Neil on this one. Even though Ford is the only game in town unless they could use the chassis for other applications I don't think they will accept the risk. They have pushed the F53 GCWR up to 30K but I think they might be at the limit for the power train and brakes.

Also I recall reading something a while back about when Ford sold off their Class 8 (B series) truck line to Freightliner in 1996 which included a 10-year non-compete agreement. Fast forward 10 years to 2007 and the economy was tanking, particularly for the Big 3, (GM, Chrysler and Ford), which I suspect would be the reason why we haven't seen anything from Ford as yet. Freightliner does have a front engine diesel chassis but very few coach builders are using it. With limited demand Ford probably won't take the risk.
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Ford has the "hardware" now to do a F53 FRED. They have the 6.7 L in the F350 Super Duty @ 440hp and 880 torque, and it is only an $8400 option. It's a natural for a F53 FRED if they decide to do it, would likely put a big dent in the lower end DP market.
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I dont know what RV name brand it was I've seen, but Ford is producing a C class chassis that looks like a pickup cab with the diesel. Racer friend of ours had one of those, stated it rode like a tank, so traded it in & got a super C on the International chassis & is happy now.
That Ford chassis must have been a 550 or 650.
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I dont know what RV name brand it was I've seen, but Ford is producing a C class chassis that looks like a pickup cab with the diesel. Racer friend of ours had one of those, stated it rode like a tank, so traded it in & got a super C on the International chassis & is happy now.
That Ford chassis must have been a 550 or 650.
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They are using some 450's also https://www.google.com/search?q=ford...F2%3B400%3B267
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Ford has rated the V10 for up to 37,000 GVW in the F650 and F750 chassis and they have a 6 speed transmission. I would like that transmission as an aftermarket upgrade because in the Rocky Mountains another gear between 4th and OD would be nice.

At the end of Oct. heading W/B on I-40 on the grade from Weatherford, OK to Amarillo there was a headwind and gradual upgrade. My RV could not maintain 62 MPH and would not allow 4th gear unless WOT. So I could shift to 3rd and run at 50 MPH and nearly 5,000 RPM or accelerate to a higher speed where the RPM power range would maintain my speed. I found that 72-73 mph worked in OD (Tow Haul engaged) and 2,900 RPM and 5.6 MPG. I would have been nice to be able to have a way to make the transmission use 4th at say 70% of the throttle versus only WOT (or it upshifts to OD). The driving conditions continued until Kingman, AZ.
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What is "WOT"?
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